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A challenging question on text boxes-word 2000
Dear all
I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. |
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A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be
anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. |
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I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to
achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. |
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This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period
on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3, format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border. -----Original Message----- I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow- ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA- ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. . |
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This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to an empty
paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can flow back and forth around. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Greg" wrote in message ... This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3, format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border. -----Original Message----- I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow- ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA- ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. . |
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Word is not page layout software; it's designed to allow text to flow
freely, not to be built up in static pages. The way I approach a problem of this sort is as follows: 1. I don't even try to introduce any full-page graphics until editing is complete. I may insert a marker such as "[Figure 2 goes here]." 2. When editing is complete, so that I'm sure the page makeup will not change, I insert a manual page break at the end of the page before the full-page graphic (more on this later). 3. Since a wrapped graphic has to be anchored to a text paragraph, you might as well make it inline instead. You can insert graphic and caption together in two text paragraphs or in two single-column rows of a borderless table--whatever works for you. 4. Let's say the graphic is on page 2, with text on pages 1 and 3. If page 1 ends in the middle of a paragraph, you will have some additional work to do if the paragraph (a) is justified, (b) has a first-line indent, or (c) has Space Before. For (c), it's easier just to format body text with Space After instead. For (b), you will need to either manually remove the first-line indent from the first paragraph on page 3 or (better) apply an unindented style. I have Body Text and Body Text First Indent styles for this purpose (and others). For (b), you will need to insert a line break (to justify the last line), and then format the paragraph mark (on the next line) as 1 pt to keep it from breaking to the next page. FWIW, if you can rethink your design so that each "full-page" graphic can coexist with a couple of lines of body text on the page, your task will be much easier. You can anchor the graphic to the paragraph in which it is referenced and set its position to Top or Bottom Relative to Margin, which will assure that it stays in the same place, regardless of what page it is on (but it will always be on the same page with the paragraph to which it is anchored). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message ... I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. |
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Well, yes, you could do this using text boxes on all three pages, but if you
consider that "page 1" and "page 3" are really just shorthand for "page before the full-page graphic" and "page after the full-page graphic" and that the text in question might actually be hundreds of pages long, with numerous full-page graphics (whereas Word limits the number of linked text boxes to 32 *and* severely limits formatting inside text boxes), I think you'll see this is not really a viable solution. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Greg Maxey" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I will have to try this again when I have time. I used three margin sized text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt empty space, I linked the first to the third and formatted them with no fill or borders (they looked like a blank page), the second I left with fill and borders. I am pretty sure that as I typed in the first TB it spilled over and filled the third leaving the second on page 2 unaffected. I could be wrong. -- Greg Maxey A peer in "peer to peer" support Rockledge, FL To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to an empty paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can flow back and forth around. "Greg" wrote in message ... This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3, format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border. -----Original Message----- I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow- ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA- ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. . |
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Suzanne,
I disagree. While it is clearly not a viable solution for the larger problem you identified, it is a crude solution for the problem at hand (i.e., the OP wants text to flow from something (humor me and call it a page), to something else (call it a page too) on the other side of a full page graphic without messing with the graphic. Adapt, improvise, and overcome. :-) -- Greg Maxey A peer in "peer to peer" support Rockledge, FL To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: Well, yes, you could do this using text boxes on all three pages, but if you consider that "page 1" and "page 3" are really just shorthand for "page before the full-page graphic" and "page after the full-page graphic" and that the text in question might actually be hundreds of pages long, with numerous full-page graphics (whereas Word limits the number of linked text boxes to 32 *and* severely limits formatting inside text boxes), I think you'll see this is not really a viable solution. "Greg Maxey" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I will have to try this again when I have time. I used three margin sized text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt empty space, I linked the first to the third and formatted them with no fill or borders (they looked like a blank page), the second I left with fill and borders. I am pretty sure that as I typed in the first TB it spilled over and filled the third leaving the second on page 2 unaffected. I could be wrong. -- Greg Maxey A peer in "peer to peer" support Rockledge, FL To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to an empty paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can flow back and forth around. "Greg" wrote in message ... This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3, format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border. -----Original Message----- I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow- ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA- ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. . |
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The OP is the final arbiter, but I would be very surprised if his document
is only three pages long. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Greg Maxey" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I disagree. While it is clearly not a viable solution for the larger problem you identified, it is a crude solution for the problem at hand (i.e., the OP wants text to flow from something (humor me and call it a page), to something else (call it a page too) on the other side of a full page graphic without messing with the graphic. Adapt, improvise, and overcome. :-) -- Greg Maxey A peer in "peer to peer" support Rockledge, FL To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: Well, yes, you could do this using text boxes on all three pages, but if you consider that "page 1" and "page 3" are really just shorthand for "page before the full-page graphic" and "page after the full-page graphic" and that the text in question might actually be hundreds of pages long, with numerous full-page graphics (whereas Word limits the number of linked text boxes to 32 *and* severely limits formatting inside text boxes), I think you'll see this is not really a viable solution. "Greg Maxey" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I will have to try this again when I have time. I used three margin sized text boxes in three sections anchored to a 1pt empty space, I linked the first to the third and formatted them with no fill or borders (they looked like a blank page), the second I left with fill and borders. I am pretty sure that as I typed in the first TB it spilled over and filled the third leaving the second on page 2 unaffected. I could be wrong. -- Greg Maxey A peer in "peer to peer" support Rockledge, FL To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: This doesn't help, Greg. You can anchor a text box just as well to an empty paragraph, but the problem is that this paragraph will interrupt the text flow. There is no way to have a full-page wrapped graphic--that is, one that text on the previous and next pages can flow back and forth around. "Greg" wrote in message ... This is crude, but perhaps you could put a 1 point period on each page, anchor 3 full page textboxes (one to each period), create a link from textbox 1 to text box 3, format textbox 1 and 3 with no fill or border. -----Original Message----- I did not know this, thank you. Would you have any suggestion on how to achieve what I wish to do? This should possible with Word. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: A text box is a drawing object. Objects in the drawing layer must be anchored to text in the text layer. You cannot have a text box on a page with no text. Period. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow- ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "fw76" wrote in message news:6C94BC78-8A0E-4882-A6EA- ... Dear all I have a problem: Imagine I have 2 pages full of text.between them I'd like to put a page full with several pictures . I would like this text box to be as big as the area between my margins so that no text from the 2 mentioned pages appear on it. Moreover I would like this text box to stay in place, actually page 2. Moreover, I would like the 2 pages full of text to be placed in page 1 and 3. I would like the text to float nicely between page 1 and 3 without any break of any kind. results: Due to the size, the text box moves although I said it shouldn't (do not move with text). If I manage to make the text box stay at the right place, a line of my text from the 2 text pages typically hides behind my text box although i did not allow overlap. Do you have a solution to this? by advance, Thanks. . |
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