TABLE FORMAT STUMPER

XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS selected, but the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the "UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above, which to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space preventing the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row to be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at the top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but I can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another exact figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far left cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as far as the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William

Make sure the paragraph doesn't have any Space Before, but also consider
reducing the line spacing, as there may be excess line spacing above the
line in Verdana that has this effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some
formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is
aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS selected, but
the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the "UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above, which
to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space preventing
the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row to be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at the
top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but I can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another exact
figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far left
cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as far as
the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William

Suzanne, Suzanne, Suzanne,

How many times have I seen that name,
then seen a wicked problem tamed.
May fame and riches follows thee;
and your name forever blessed be.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Make sure the paragraph doesn't have any Space Before, but also consider
reducing the line spacing, as there may be excess line spacing above the
line in Verdana that has this effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some
formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is
aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS selected, but
the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the "UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above, which
to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space preventing
the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row to be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at the
top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but I can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another exact
figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far left
cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as far as
the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William

So which was it? g

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Suzanne, Suzanne,

How many times have I seen that name,
then seen a wicked problem tamed.
May fame and riches follows thee;
and your name forever blessed be.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Make sure the paragraph doesn't have any Space Before, but also consider
reducing the line spacing, as there may be excess line spacing above the
line in Verdana that has this effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some
formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is
aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables
and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS selected,
but
the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch
space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the "UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above,
which
to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space preventing
the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row to
be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at the
top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to
allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and
moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but I
can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another exact
figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far left
cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the
four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as far
as
the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William

It was the extra space above the line of text.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

So which was it? g

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Suzanne, Suzanne,

How many times have I seen that name,
then seen a wicked problem tamed.
May fame and riches follows thee;
and your name forever blessed be.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Make sure the paragraph doesn't have any Space Before, but also consider
reducing the line spacing, as there may be excess line spacing above the
line in Verdana that has this effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some
formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is
aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables
and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS selected,
but
the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch
space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the "UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above,
which
to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space preventing
the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row to
be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at the
top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to
allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and
moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but I
can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another exact
figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far left
cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the
four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as far
as
the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William

I guess Verdana, being meant to be very readable and Web-friendly, was
designed with plenty of leading.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
It was the extra space above the line of text.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

So which was it? g

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Suzanne, Suzanne,

How many times have I seen that name,
then seen a wicked problem tamed.
May fame and riches follows thee;
and your name forever blessed be.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Make sure the paragraph doesn't have any Space Before, but also
consider
reducing the line spacing, as there may be excess line spacing above
the
line in Verdana that has this effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some
formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is
aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables
and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS
selected,
but
the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch
space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the
"UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above,
which
to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space
preventing
the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row
to
be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at
the
top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to
allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and
moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but
I
can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another
exact
figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far
left
cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the
four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as
far
as
the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William

AMEN to that one, William! Suzanne seems to have ALL the right answers!
Editor (Thank you, Suzanne, for your help loooong ago!)

"William" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Suzanne, Suzanne,

How many times have I seen that name,
then seen a wicked problem tamed.
May fame and riches follows thee;
and your name forever blessed be.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Make sure the paragraph doesn't have any Space Before, but also consider
reducing the line spacing, as there may be excess line spacing above the
line in Verdana that has this effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some
formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is
aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables
and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS selected,
but
the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch
space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the "UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above,
which
to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space preventing
the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row to
be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at the
top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to
allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and
moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but I
can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another exact
figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far left
cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the
four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as far
as
the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William

I'm glad that some of my rapidly dwindling knowledge is still of use to
someone.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Editor" wrote in message
...
AMEN to that one, William! Suzanne seems to have ALL the right answers!
Editor (Thank you, Suzanne, for your help loooong ago!)

"William" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Suzanne, Suzanne,

How many times have I seen that name,
then seen a wicked problem tamed.
May fame and riches follows thee;
and your name forever blessed be.
--
William


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Make sure the paragraph doesn't have any Space Before, but also consider
reducing the line spacing, as there may be excess line spacing above the
line in Verdana that has this effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"William" wrote in message
...
XP/2003

I have a document with a table whose rows "resist" allowing some
formatting
changes.

1. In a cell that is about .4 inches tall, the text (Verdana 10) is
aligned
left on the bottom border. If I select align/top/left on the Tables
and
Borders toolbar, the text doesn't budge. If I select the row, go to
Tables/Table Properties/Cell, the "Top" alignment button IS selected,
but
the
text nevertheless remains at the bottom of the row. I have "Reveal
Fomatting" on, and can not see any formatting marks in the 1/4 inch
space
above the text. If I put my cursor on the text, and then hit the "UP"
directional arrow, the cursor jumps all the way into the row above,
which
to
me is an indication that there is no formatting in the space
preventing
the
text from aligning on the top border. Lastly, if I specify the row to
be
exactly .25" high, the row becomes less tall, but only the space at
the
top
is visible and not the text as the row is no longer tall enough to
allow
viewing of both the top space and the text on the bottom !

Also, I am unable to make these .4 rows less tall by "grabbing" and
moving
the bottom border. These rows are specified as "at least" .18", but I
can
not size them manually below the .4" without specifying another exact
figure.

2. In one row with 5 cells, I can specify that the text in the far
left
cell
be positioned at the top, but when I try to position the text in the
four
cells to the left of the first cell, the text moves up, but not as far
as
the
text in the first cel

This one has stumped a pretty experienced office staff.

Wm
--
William