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Old August 31st, 2004, 09:21 PM
Mark
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Default Will I lose Access 2002 if I install Office 2003

I have Office XP professional loaded on my XP Home Version computer.
It includes Access. I have purchased a student/teacher edition of
office 2003 (it does not contain Access). If I load the new software,
will I still have Access available, or will it be overwritten and
gone?
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Old September 1st, 2004, 12:24 AM
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From: (vishal subramaniam (msft))
Subject: office pro will not reinstall on new computer
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup



ISSUE:
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From: Mark
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
Subject: Will I lose Access 2002 if I install Office 2003
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:21:06 -0500

I have Office XP professional loaded on my XP Home Version computer.
It includes Access. I have purchased a student/teacher edition of
office 2003 (it does not contain Access). If I load the new software,
will I still have Access available, or will it be overwritten and
gone?

RESOLUTION
====================
Information about running multiple versions of Office with Office 2003
View products that this article applies to.
SUMMARY
Although we do not recommend it, you can install and use more than one
version of Microsoft Office on a single computer. For example, you can
install and use both Microsoft Office 2003 and Microsoft Office 97 on the
same computer. This article describes the problems that you may experience
if you do this and offers advice to help prevent different versions of
Office from conflicting with each other.

Note Microsoft does not support the use of multiple versions of Microsoft
Office on a Terminal Server. Coexistence is not supported on versions of
Windows that are running Terminal Services. If you have to run multiple
versions of Office, disable Terminal Services.
MORE INFORMATION
Order of Installation
If you want to install and use more than one version of Office on the same
computer, you must install the earliest version first. For example, if you
want to use both Office 97 and Microsoft Office XP on the same computer,
install Office 97 first. You must follow this step because of the way that
registry keys, shared programs, file extensions, and other settings are
managed for each version of Office, and for the programs that are included
with each version of Office.

The following table shows the order that you must use install each version
of Office.

Office Version Installation Order
Office 97 First
Office 2000 Second
Office XP Third
Office 2003 Fourth

The remainder of this article assumes that you installed the versions of
Office in this order.
Office Bin Folder Location Changes to \Office11 Folder
When you install Office 2003, the default folder for Setup is still
\Program Files\Microsoft Office. However, the Office Bin folder (the folder
where the Office .exe files are installed) has changed to \Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office11. This was first done with Office XP to
provide a better user experience for users who require multiple versions of
Office installed on the same computer. There is no way to change the name
of the Office Bin folder.
Multiple Versions of Outlook
Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 cannot coexist with any earlier version of
Microsoft Outlook. If you choose to install Office Outlook 2003, the Setup
program will not allow you to keep any earlier version. Microsoft Outlook
2002, Microsoft Outlook 2000, or Microsoft Outlook 98 will be removed even
if you click to select the Keep these programs check box in the Removing
Previous Versions dialog box.

For additional information, click the following article number to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
826319 Office 2003 Setup may remove earlier versions of Office

Use the Office Shortcut Bar
Office 2003 does not include the Office Shortcut Bar; however, when earlier
versions of Office are installed on the same computer, the Office Shortcut
Bar will be retained with the earlier versions of Office.

When earlier versions of Office are installed with Office 2003, the
shortcut bars can be started separately although not at the same time, and
each may have their own set of custom toolbars and buttons. These toolbars
and buttons cannot be shared between two Office Shortcut Bars.
Shortcuts on the Start Menu
Office 97, Office 2000, and Office XP use the same shortcut names on the
Start menu to start programs. Office 2003 now automatically installs its
shortcuts to the Office subfolder on the Start menu. New Office 2003
shortcuts are versioned. However, to avoid confusion, Microsoft suggests
that you add the version number to each shortcut for the earlier products.
For example, rename the shortcut that points to Microsoft Access to
Microsoft Access 97 before you install Office 2003. You can also move the
Office 97 shortcuts to a different subfolder on the Start menu.

For additional information, click the following article number to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
292584 Setup overwrites Start menu items from earlier versions of Office


If you manually move the shortcuts for either Office XP or Office 2000 and
you reinstall the product or repair the shortcuts, the shortcuts will be
recreated on the Programs menu off the Start menu.

Note You can customize Office 2003, Office XP, or Office 2000 Setup to
install the shortcuts to another location on the Start menu by using the
Custom Installation Wizard that is contained in the Microsoft Office 2003
Resource Kit.

For more information about the Microsoft Office 2003 Resource Kit, visit
the following Microsoft Web site:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork

Microsoft Office Binder
When Office 97 is installed on the same computer as Office 2000, the Add
Section dialog box in Office Binder displays document types for the most
recently installed version of Office up to Office 2000. As a result, when
you insert a section into a binder file, an Office 2000 document type is
used. This behavior may cause problems when you try to share a binder file
with other users who have earlier versions of Office.

Note Starting with Office XP, Microsoft Office is not included with
Microsoft Office Binder. However, a utility to extract all office documents
from a Binder file is included.

For additional information, click the following article number to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
281931 Error message when you try to open Microsoft Binder file

Double-Click a File in Microsoft Windows Explorer
When you double-click an Office document in Windows Explorer, or from the
recent documents folder of Windows, the following rules apply:
If a version of the program where the document was created is running, the
document is opened in that version.
With Office 97, Office 2000, or Office XP, if no version of the program
where the document was created is running, the document opens in the
version of the program that you most recently installed.
With Microsoft Access and Microsoft Word (Word for Windows 95, Word 97,
Word 2000, Word 2002, or Word 2003), if no version of the program where the
document was created is running, the document is opened in the version of
the program that was most recently open.
To re-associate documents with the programs that are included with a
particular version of Office, run the Office Setup program, and then click
Reinstall (for version 97) or click Repair Office (for Office 2000 or
Office XP). Doing this registers the file associations for that version of
Office.
Note This does not correct the behavior if you are using Access or Word.
Insert Office OLE Objects into Other Programs
If you install multiple versions of Office on the same computer and you
insert an Office object, such as a Microsoft Excel worksheet object, into
another program, such as a Word document, the newest version of the program
is used. This may cause problems if you share the container file with users
who are not using Office 2003, for example, a Word document that contains
an Excel worksheet object.
Shared Programs
If you installed the versions of Office in the order described in the
"Order of Installation" section, you generally do not experience any
problems when you use shared programs such as Equation Editor and Clip
Gallery. Note that the Object dialog box may display more than one entry
for each shared program. This behavior occurs because multiple versions of
the shared program may be installed on the computer.
Preparing to Install... Message When You Start Word
If you have multiple versions of Word installed on your computer, when you
start Office Word 2003, the Windows Installer may run and display a message
that states that it is preparing to install before actually starting Word.

For instructions about how to install multiple versions as a dual boot,
visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;828957

LINKS:
=========
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=828956
HTH

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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Old September 1st, 2004, 12:49 AM
Timothy L
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That all depends if you uninstall (remove) Office XP (2002) when you perform
the Office 2003 installation.


If you DON'T want to keep Word XP, Excel XP, PowerPoint XP, Outlook XP,
and/or any other Office XP program, I'd suggest that you uninstall these
Office components using the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel prior to
(before) installing Office XP.



How to uninstall Microsoft Office XP via the Add/Remove Programs Control
Panel:

First, exit ALL running Microsoft Office XP programs.

Click Start.
Point to Settings.
Click on (or point to) Control Panel.
Double-click (or single-click) on Add/Remove Programs.
Find Microsoft Office Student & Teacher Edition XP and click on it.
Click on Change.

Now unselect the items you wish to uninstall (remove).
All of the Office XP programs that you WISH TO KEEP (i.e. Access XP) should
REMAIN SELECTED.




NOTE: The Office Shortcut Bar is NOT included in Office 2003!
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822573

If you wish to continue using the Office Shortcut Bar, you WILL need to use
an earlier version of Office (i.e. Office XP).




"Mark" wrote in message
...
I have Office XP professional loaded on my XP Home Version computer.
It includes Access. I have purchased a student/teacher edition of
office 2003 (it does not contain Access). If I load the new software,
will I still have Access available, or will it be overwritten and
gone?



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Old September 1st, 2004, 01:00 PM
Mark
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I just want to update the programs that are duplicated. I have a
LOT of information saved in Outlook. I'm afraid that your "uninstall
XP before loading 2003" idea would blow away that irretrievable data.
Is that right? The objective is to have the latest version of all
available office products without losing any (or the data that's saved
with it)

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:49:55 -0400, "Timothy L"
wrote:

That all depends if you uninstall (remove) Office XP (2002) when you perform
the Office 2003 installation.


If you DON'T want to keep Word XP, Excel XP, PowerPoint XP, Outlook XP,
and/or any other Office XP program, I'd suggest that you uninstall these
Office components using the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel prior to
(before) installing Office XP.



How to uninstall Microsoft Office XP via the Add/Remove Programs Control
Panel:

First, exit ALL running Microsoft Office XP programs.

Click Start.
Point to Settings.
Click on (or point to) Control Panel.
Double-click (or single-click) on Add/Remove Programs.
Find Microsoft Office Student & Teacher Edition XP and click on it.
Click on Change.

Now unselect the items you wish to uninstall (remove).
All of the Office XP programs that you WISH TO KEEP (i.e. Access XP) should
REMAIN SELECTED.




NOTE: The Office Shortcut Bar is NOT included in Office 2003!
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822573

If you wish to continue using the Office Shortcut Bar, you WILL need to use
an earlier version of Office (i.e. Office XP).




"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
I have Office XP professional loaded on my XP Home Version computer.
It includes Access. I have purchased a student/teacher edition of
office 2003 (it does not contain Access). If I load the new software,
will I still have Access available, or will it be overwritten and
gone?



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Old September 1st, 2004, 03:48 PM
Timothy L
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Your Outlook XP data should be somewhere in the \Documents and Settings\
folder on drive C (or the drive that Windows is loaded on).

This data should remain even if you uninstall Outlook XP.

The exact location will be different depending on what your log on name is
for Windows. (i.e. if you log on as "Mark" when you start Windows, then you
would find the \Mark\ folder within the \Documents and Settings\ folder).


The information you would be looking for would be in (by default):
C:\Documents and Settings\---NAME--HERE---\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook\

For you, it might be (if you use "Mark" as your Windows log on name):
C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook\


You'd be looking for a file called Outlook.pst
The Type column next to it may say "Office Data File" if you don't see the
..pst extension at the end. (in Details view)



Additional Office settings files can also be found in:
C:\Documents and Settings\---NAME--HERE---\Application
Data\Microsoft\Office\

For you, it might be:
C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Application Data\Microsoft\Office\






Of course, you can always keep Outlook XP, install Office 2003 (and select
Outlook 2003 as one of the components, along with anything else), restart
your computer (if asked), run Outlook 2003 and go through the Import and
Export wizard (if it doesn't start, choose Import and Export from the File
menu).

Then once all of your Outlook XP info, accounts, messages, rules, and
what-not is in Outlook 2003, you can then remove Outlook XP.






Also, be sure to check for updates after you have installed Office 2003 at
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/



If you wish, you can download the Office 2003 SP1 update now and run it
after you install Office 2003.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

There are 2 files listed on that page.

Office2003SP1-kb842532-client-enu.exe
download this if you HAVE access to your Office/PowerPoint 2003 CD

Office2003SP1-kb842532-fullfile-enu.exe
download this if you DO NOT have access to your Office/PowerPoint 2003 CD or
if you experienced problems installing the
Office2003SP1-kb842532-client-enu.exe file



I would recommend that you download Office2003SP1-kb842532-fullfile-enu.exe
so that you won't need to get your Office 2003 CD.




"Mark" wrote in message
...
I just want to update the programs that are duplicated. I have a
LOT of information saved in Outlook. I'm afraid that your "uninstall
XP before loading 2003" idea would blow away that irretrievable data.
Is that right? The objective is to have the latest version of all
available office products without losing any (or the data that's saved
with it)

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:49:55 -0400, "Timothy L"
wrote:

That all depends if you uninstall (remove) Office XP (2002) when you

perform
the Office 2003 installation.


If you DON'T want to keep Word XP, Excel XP, PowerPoint XP, Outlook XP,
and/or any other Office XP program, I'd suggest that you uninstall these
Office components using the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel prior to
(before) installing Office XP.



How to uninstall Microsoft Office XP via the Add/Remove Programs Control
Panel:

First, exit ALL running Microsoft Office XP programs.

Click Start.
Point to Settings.
Click on (or point to) Control Panel.
Double-click (or single-click) on Add/Remove Programs.
Find Microsoft Office Student & Teacher Edition XP and click on it.
Click on Change.

Now unselect the items you wish to uninstall (remove).
All of the Office XP programs that you WISH TO KEEP (i.e. Access XP)

should
REMAIN SELECTED.




NOTE: The Office Shortcut Bar is NOT included in Office 2003!
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822573

If you wish to continue using the Office Shortcut Bar, you WILL need to

use
an earlier version of Office (i.e. Office XP).




"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
I have Office XP professional loaded on my XP Home Version computer.
It includes Access. I have purchased a student/teacher edition of
office 2003 (it does not contain Access). If I load the new software,
will I still have Access available, or will it be overwritten and
gone?





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Old September 1st, 2004, 05:51 PM
Mark
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Okay, thanks. I'll give it a try.


On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:48:24 -0400, "Timothy L"
wrote:

Your Outlook XP data should be somewhere in the \Documents and Settings\
folder on drive C (or the drive that Windows is loaded on).

This data should remain even if you uninstall Outlook XP.

The exact location will be different depending on what your log on name is
for Windows. (i.e. if you log on as "Mark" when you start Windows, then you
would find the \Mark\ folder within the \Documents and Settings\ folder).


The information you would be looking for would be in (by default):
C:\Documents and Settings\---NAME--HERE---\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook\

For you, it might be (if you use "Mark" as your Windows log on name):
C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook\


You'd be looking for a file called Outlook.pst
The Type column next to it may say "Office Data File" if you don't see the
.pst extension at the end. (in Details view)



Additional Office settings files can also be found in:
C:\Documents and Settings\---NAME--HERE---\Application
Data\Microsoft\Office\

For you, it might be:
C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Application Data\Microsoft\Office\






Of course, you can always keep Outlook XP, install Office 2003 (and select
Outlook 2003 as one of the components, along with anything else), restart
your computer (if asked), run Outlook 2003 and go through the Import and
Export wizard (if it doesn't start, choose Import and Export from the File
menu).

Then once all of your Outlook XP info, accounts, messages, rules, and
what-not is in Outlook 2003, you can then remove Outlook XP.






Also, be sure to check for updates after you have installed Office 2003 at
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/



If you wish, you can download the Office 2003 SP1 update now and run it
after you install Office 2003.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

There are 2 files listed on that page.

Office2003SP1-kb842532-client-enu.exe
download this if you HAVE access to your Office/PowerPoint 2003 CD

Office2003SP1-kb842532-fullfile-enu.exe
download this if you DO NOT have access to your Office/PowerPoint 2003 CD or
if you experienced problems installing the
Office2003SP1-kb842532-client-enu.exe file



I would recommend that you download Office2003SP1-kb842532-fullfile-enu.exe
so that you won't need to get your Office 2003 CD.




"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
I just want to update the programs that are duplicated. I have a
LOT of information saved in Outlook. I'm afraid that your "uninstall
XP before loading 2003" idea would blow away that irretrievable data.
Is that right? The objective is to have the latest version of all
available office products without losing any (or the data that's saved
with it)

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:49:55 -0400, "Timothy L"
wrote:

That all depends if you uninstall (remove) Office XP (2002) when you

perform
the Office 2003 installation.


If you DON'T want to keep Word XP, Excel XP, PowerPoint XP, Outlook XP,
and/or any other Office XP program, I'd suggest that you uninstall these
Office components using the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel prior to
(before) installing Office XP.



How to uninstall Microsoft Office XP via the Add/Remove Programs Control
Panel:

First, exit ALL running Microsoft Office XP programs.

Click Start.
Point to Settings.
Click on (or point to) Control Panel.
Double-click (or single-click) on Add/Remove Programs.
Find Microsoft Office Student & Teacher Edition XP and click on it.
Click on Change.

Now unselect the items you wish to uninstall (remove).
All of the Office XP programs that you WISH TO KEEP (i.e. Access XP)

should
REMAIN SELECTED.




NOTE: The Office Shortcut Bar is NOT included in Office 2003!
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822573

If you wish to continue using the Office Shortcut Bar, you WILL need to

use
an earlier version of Office (i.e. Office XP).




"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
I have Office XP professional loaded on my XP Home Version computer.
It includes Access. I have purchased a student/teacher edition of
office 2003 (it does not contain Access). If I load the new software,
will I still have Access available, or will it be overwritten and
gone?




 




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