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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista.
I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
Thanks for the smile, Suzanne, but I really need to find out how can I induce
my normal.dot to act normal again. She is driving me crazy. Seriously, I looked around for some kind of answer, but couldn't see anyone else with this problem. -- Thanks, Don "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
Your AutoSave program runs once a minute, you hit the issue once a minute -
as the Americans say, you do the math! The problem is almost certainly in the action of the AutoSave. Not knowing how it does its stuff, I can't really comment further - does it have any options relating to Normal.dot (an essential element of Word, which you cannot assassinate). -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for the smile, Suzanne, but I really need to find out how can I induce my normal.dot to act normal again. She is driving me crazy. Seriously, I looked around for some kind of answer, but couldn't see anyone else with this problem. -- Thanks, Don "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
Thanks for replying Tony.
Yes, I do realize that the problem is "in synch" with my auto save. Even so, I don't believe the problem is with the auto save software, as such. For one thing, the auto recover software was working perfectly well with my word 2002--no problem at all--for a long time. Secondly, it's a very simple piece of software and there's nothing to adjust in it. It just saves one copy a minute to a folder on my external drive. It could and probably is involved tangentially, but I think the problem has more to do with my normal.dot template. However, I've never changed anything in the normal.dot (not that I'm aware of, anyway), so I can't figure out why it's acting up, nor how to fix it. I've been looking around on the Net, but I don't really understand how it works. Surely someone here can tell me how to set it right. A late report... I just opened my Word 2002 and on the left in a vertical section entitled "Available Files" it says "Template 1 Recovered. It asks me which file do I want to save. And yes, the word "auto recover" is there. Whoops, I did something and it's all gone. .... Well, I'm glad I kept my old typewriter. -- "Tony Jollans" wrote: Your AutoSave program runs once a minute, you hit the issue once a minute - as the Americans say, you do the math! The problem is almost certainly in the action of the AutoSave. Not knowing how it does its stuff, I can't really comment further - does it have any options relating to Normal.dot (an essential element of Word, which you cannot assassinate). -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for the smile, Suzanne, but I really need to find out how can I induce my normal.dot to act normal again. She is driving me crazy. Seriously, I looked around for some kind of answer, but couldn't see anyone else with this problem. -- Thanks, Don "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
So you've had some sort of crash and Word has tried to recover - amongst
other things, your Normal template. It sounds like this has confused AutoSave. Word is playing safe and not allowing Normal.dot to be overwritten without your say-so. Perhaps whatever you did has been taken to be that say-so - are you saying all is now well? -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for replying Tony. Yes, I do realize that the problem is "in synch" with my auto save. Even so, I don't believe the problem is with the auto save software, as such. For one thing, the auto recover software was working perfectly well with my word 2002--no problem at all--for a long time. Secondly, it's a very simple piece of software and there's nothing to adjust in it. It just saves one copy a minute to a folder on my external drive. It could and probably is involved tangentially, but I think the problem has more to do with my normal.dot template. However, I've never changed anything in the normal.dot (not that I'm aware of, anyway), so I can't figure out why it's acting up, nor how to fix it. I've been looking around on the Net, but I don't really understand how it works. Surely someone here can tell me how to set it right. A late report... I just opened my Word 2002 and on the left in a vertical section entitled "Available Files" it says "Template 1 Recovered. It asks me which file do I want to save. And yes, the word "auto recover" is there. Whoops, I did something and it's all gone. .... Well, I'm glad I kept my old typewriter. -- "Tony Jollans" wrote: Your AutoSave program runs once a minute, you hit the issue once a minute - as the Americans say, you do the math! The problem is almost certainly in the action of the AutoSave. Not knowing how it does its stuff, I can't really comment further - does it have any options relating to Normal.dot (an essential element of Word, which you cannot assassinate). -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for the smile, Suzanne, but I really need to find out how can I induce my normal.dot to act normal again. She is driving me crazy. Seriously, I looked around for some kind of answer, but couldn't see anyone else with this problem. -- Thanks, Don "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
Thanks Tony. I think you're getting to the bottom of it. You're right. I
was having some trouble for a while a few days ago and my word (and my explorer) crashed several times. I had some help to get back to normal and haven't had any further crashes, but I guess this normal.dot problem is a residual problem from whatever happened to me a few days ago. Otherwise everything would be okay--I think. I just downloaded and reinstalled the Auto Save, but the problem persisted. The question is, what to do now. Do you have a suggestion? -- Tony Jollans" wrote: So you've had some sort of crash and Word has tried to recover - amongst other things, your Normal template. It sounds like this has confused AutoSave. Word is playing safe and not allowing Normal.dot to be overwritten without your say-so. Perhaps whatever you did has been taken to be that say-so - are you saying all is now well? -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for replying Tony. Yes, I do realize that the problem is "in synch" with my auto save. Even so, I don't believe the problem is with the auto save software, as such. For one thing, the auto recover software was working perfectly well with my word 2002--no problem at all--for a long time. Secondly, it's a very simple piece of software and there's nothing to adjust in it. It just saves one copy a minute to a folder on my external drive. It could and probably is involved tangentially, but I think the problem has more to do with my normal.dot template. However, I've never changed anything in the normal.dot (not that I'm aware of, anyway), so I can't figure out why it's acting up, nor how to fix it. I've been looking around on the Net, but I don't really understand how it works. Surely someone here can tell me how to set it right. A late report... I just opened my Word 2002 and on the left in a vertical section entitled "Available Files" it says "Template 1 Recovered. It asks me which file do I want to save. And yes, the word "auto recover" is there. Whoops, I did something and it's all gone. .... Well, I'm glad I kept my old typewriter. -- "Tony Jollans" wrote: Your AutoSave program runs once a minute, you hit the issue once a minute - as the Americans say, you do the math! The problem is almost certainly in the action of the AutoSave. Not knowing how it does its stuff, I can't really comment further - does it have any options relating to Normal.dot (an essential element of Word, which you cannot assassinate). -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for the smile, Suzanne, but I really need to find out how can I induce my normal.dot to act normal again. She is driving me crazy. Seriously, I looked around for some kind of answer, but couldn't see anyone else with this problem. -- Thanks, Don "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
Hi Don,
At the least, you need to clean up the crash debris. See http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm. That may not stop the problem, but it certainly can't hurt. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:28:00 -0700, Don wrote: Thanks Tony. I think you're getting to the bottom of it. You're right. I was having some trouble for a while a few days ago and my word (and my explorer) crashed several times. I had some help to get back to normal and haven't had any further crashes, but I guess this normal.dot problem is a residual problem from whatever happened to me a few days ago. Otherwise everything would be okay--I think. I just downloaded and reinstalled the Auto Save, but the problem persisted. The question is, what to do now. Do you have a suggestion? -- Tony Jollans" wrote: So you've had some sort of crash and Word has tried to recover - amongst other things, your Normal template. It sounds like this has confused AutoSave. Word is playing safe and not allowing Normal.dot to be overwritten without your say-so. Perhaps whatever you did has been taken to be that say-so - are you saying all is now well? -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for replying Tony. Yes, I do realize that the problem is "in synch" with my auto save. Even so, I don't believe the problem is with the auto save software, as such. For one thing, the auto recover software was working perfectly well with my word 2002--no problem at all--for a long time. Secondly, it's a very simple piece of software and there's nothing to adjust in it. It just saves one copy a minute to a folder on my external drive. It could and probably is involved tangentially, but I think the problem has more to do with my normal.dot template. However, I've never changed anything in the normal.dot (not that I'm aware of, anyway), so I can't figure out why it's acting up, nor how to fix it. I've been looking around on the Net, but I don't really understand how it works. Surely someone here can tell me how to set it right. A late report... I just opened my Word 2002 and on the left in a vertical section entitled "Available Files" it says "Template 1 Recovered. It asks me which file do I want to save. And yes, the word "auto recover" is there. Whoops, I did something and it's all gone. .... Well, I'm glad I kept my old typewriter. -- "Tony Jollans" wrote: Your AutoSave program runs once a minute, you hit the issue once a minute - as the Americans say, you do the math! The problem is almost certainly in the action of the AutoSave. Not knowing how it does its stuff, I can't really comment further - does it have any options relating to Normal.dot (an essential element of Word, which you cannot assassinate). -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for the smile, Suzanne, but I really need to find out how can I induce my normal.dot to act normal again. She is driving me crazy. Seriously, I looked around for some kind of answer, but couldn't see anyone else with this problem. -- Thanks, Don "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
Thanks for the information, Jay. I'll run through the procedure and clean up
the debris and report the result. Cheers, Don. -- "Jay Freedman" wrote: Hi Don, At the least, you need to clean up the crash debris. See http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm. That may not stop the problem, but it certainly can't hurt. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:28:00 -0700, Don wrote: Thanks Tony. I think you're getting to the bottom of it. You're right. I was having some trouble for a while a few days ago and my word (and my explorer) crashed several times. I had some help to get back to normal and haven't had any further crashes, but I guess this normal.dot problem is a residual problem from whatever happened to me a few days ago. Otherwise everything would be okay--I think. I just downloaded and reinstalled the Auto Save, but the problem persisted. The question is, what to do now. Do you have a suggestion? -- Tony Jollans" wrote: So you've had some sort of crash and Word has tried to recover - amongst other things, your Normal template. It sounds like this has confused AutoSave. Word is playing safe and not allowing Normal.dot to be overwritten without your say-so. Perhaps whatever you did has been taken to be that say-so - are you saying all is now well? -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for replying Tony. Yes, I do realize that the problem is "in synch" with my auto save. Even so, I don't believe the problem is with the auto save software, as such. For one thing, the auto recover software was working perfectly well with my word 2002--no problem at all--for a long time. Secondly, it's a very simple piece of software and there's nothing to adjust in it. It just saves one copy a minute to a folder on my external drive. It could and probably is involved tangentially, but I think the problem has more to do with my normal.dot template. However, I've never changed anything in the normal.dot (not that I'm aware of, anyway), so I can't figure out why it's acting up, nor how to fix it. I've been looking around on the Net, but I don't really understand how it works. Surely someone here can tell me how to set it right. A late report... I just opened my Word 2002 and on the left in a vertical section entitled "Available Files" it says "Template 1 Recovered. It asks me which file do I want to save. And yes, the word "auto recover" is there. Whoops, I did something and it's all gone. .... Well, I'm glad I kept my old typewriter. -- "Tony Jollans" wrote: Your AutoSave program runs once a minute, you hit the issue once a minute - as the Americans say, you do the math! The problem is almost certainly in the action of the AutoSave. Not knowing how it does its stuff, I can't really comment further - does it have any options relating to Normal.dot (an essential element of Word, which you cannot assassinate). -- Enjoy, Tony "Don" wrote in message ... Thanks for the smile, Suzanne, but I really need to find out how can I induce my normal.dot to act normal again. She is driving me crazy. Seriously, I looked around for some kind of answer, but couldn't see anyone else with this problem. -- Thanks, Don "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: FWIW, this is NOT normal behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Don" wrote in message ... I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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I wish Normal.dot would mind its own business
I went careful fhrough all the procedures contained in the link and I deleted
all the temp files as instructed, but my problem persists. Perhaps it would help if I write down exactly what happens. Each time my Auto Save software functions (once a minute) I get a “bong” and an extra window is created on my desktop. This window will give rise to two others, so I have three windows to close for each minute of work with the backup on, as follows: 1. A small window that says: This file is in use by another application or user (C:Users\My Name\...\Normal.dot) I click okay and it’s followed by 2. a “Save As” page, the pertinent details of which a Save in: Templates Name: Normal.dot Save as type: Document Template (*.dot) 3. I close that item without saving it and I get a dark page. When I close that the dark page, I get: a Microsoft Word “Notice” that reads. “Changes have been made that affect the global template, Normal.dot. Do you wish to save these changes. I click on “no” and that one disappears. *These items accumulate at the rate of one a minute when I have my Auto Save on. Please don’t suggest I simply keep the Auto Save off. I need it and it worked perfectly well before the word crash. The problem pretty well has to be related to an unwanted change in my word program. (I’ve reinstalled my word 2002 several times and the problem persists.) Perhaps this will ring a bell with someone. I continue to welcome any suggestions. -- "Don" wrote: I use Word 2002 (from Works 6) on a newer computer with Vista. I'm a writer and I use an excellent minute-by-minute Word backup software (to an external drive) called "Auto Save". (I need a minute-by-minute backup because I'm very old and there's a lot of dust in my brain.) Anyway, everything worked fine until the other day when I started hearing a "bong" once every minute (each time my beloved Auto Save did its thing). I looked around and found that, along with each "bong", an unrelated "Save As" page had been generated itself at the rate of one every minute. (It can take hours to close them all at the end of a work session.) On this extra (useless) page, up there in "Save in" rectangle, is the word "Templates" and, in the big pane, it says normal.dot. When you close this thing off, another box appears saying "This file is in use by another application/user etc. and gives the file path. I've uninstalled word and reinstalled it twice, but it makes no difference. There's more, but by now someone out there should be able to tell me what is going on, and what possible steps I might take in order to assassinate this normal.dot thug and get back to a normal life. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide. |
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