Name - relative reference doesn't calculate

Werner,

There are some nasty Excel bugs when Names use formulae like =!a1

If you want to use a name try this:
Define a name with a refersto like this:
=SUM(OFFSET(INDIRECT("RC",FALSE),0,{-3,-6,-9,-12},1,1))

If you want to use Bob's UDF you would need to bypass the Excel UDF VBE
Refresh bug by making sure that calculation is ALWAYS called from VB: trap
all F9, Ctrl/Alt/F9 etc with OnKey so that they call Application.Calculate
etc, and calculate the Workbook in Manual. Or embed the UDF in an Automation
addin.
If you so this the calculation speed should be OK.

Charles
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"Werner Rohrmoser" wrote in message
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Bob,

thanks for your comments, using a UDF is a good solution, but I have
to use some ten thousand formulas
and this would need a lot of time to calculate the book (AFAIK).

Regards
Werner

Assuming too much? Maybe, maybe not. I was just pointing out that Lori's
solution does know work in the OPs situation. As to the definition of Name
being correctly defined or not, that is irrelevant. It is where it is used
that matters, and so as such it had serious shortcomings as a solution (FYI
for the OP AND for anyone else that might Google this thread).

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HTH

Bob


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"T. Valko" wrote in message
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I'm assuming that Name is correctly defined and, since the OP knows what
they want, they would know not to use such a formula on row 2. Maybe I'm
assuming too much?

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"Bob Phillips" wrote in message
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And it fails if in the example if name is defined as !A1:A3 then you put
=SUM(Name) in A2.

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Bob


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"T. Valko" wrote in message
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Lori's suggestion works for me.

An alternative using Bob's suggestion only with worksheet functions is
to make the formula volatile:

=SUM(Name)+TODAY()-TODAY()

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Microsoft Excel MVP


"Werner Rohrmoser" wrote in message
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Lori,

I've made further tests as well and your Excel calculation description
helped me to find out that there is a difference between
using a named formula with relative references and to use a named
relative range
in a formula on a worksheet.

=SUM_Something_Formula vs SUM(Something_relative_Range)

The first possibility has no precednets (checked with the detective)
but the
2nd one has precedents.
So if you test both possibilities the first one doesn't calculate and
the second one does.

This has somekind of logic in connection with the Excel calculation
behaviour.
What's your opinion?

Regards
Werner

Charles,

thank you for the formula, it works fine.
One problem I have now is to get it running in different languages.
Here in Germany I have to use "ZS" instead of "RC", do you know a
general solution,
which I can use for all countries? That would be great!
(I have to send my file to 10 different countries in America, Asia and
Europe)

Regards
Werner

Hi Erner,

Ouch! I had not thought of that.

Does this work?

=SUM(OFFSET(INDIRECT(ADDRESS(0,0,4,FALSE),FALSE),0 ,{-3,-6,-9,-12},1,1))

regards
Charles
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"Werner Rohrmoser" wrote in message
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Charles,

thank you for the formula, it works fine.
One problem I have now is to get it running in different languages.
Here in Germany I have to use "ZS" instead of "RC", do you know a
general solution,
which I can use for all countries? That would be great!
(I have to send my file to 10 different countries in America, Asia and
Europe)

Regards
Werner

Hi Charles,

perfect, this formula should work everywhere.
Thank you very much.

regards
Werner

Werner - I'm not sure your tests are reliable. They may depend on the
order you enter formulas, e.g. if you enter the formula i proposed
above and then restore the original sum(name) formula, it does
recalculate ok. (Maybe something to do with the calculation tree not
being rebuilt?)

To be safe, I would try a solution along the lines Charles' suggested
although I think you need to use N(offset(...)) to dereference the
array.