Really dumb question

I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It
is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier
versions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the
'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact
icon
resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in
its
lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon
execpt
those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't
understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact
icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't
understanding
each other as to the format of the icon.
This is a non-issue.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle
in
the
lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any
contact
I
create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an
existing
contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same
Company) I
stil get the old icon.

I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this
didn't
fix the problem. Any suggestions?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year
old,
but
some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing
is,
everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything
after
4/18
does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon?

Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance
problem.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally
created
in
Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts
were
created from scratch only in Outlook 2003?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation
Date,
then
I
sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created
after
April
18th
2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact
created
before
4/18 HAS the little circle thingie.

I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ,
since
this
doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier
versions
of
Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote
in
message
...
In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2
different
icons.
One type is the standard icon that looks like a little
business
card.
The
other type is the same little business card, but also has a
little
circle
in
the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of
resembles
a
little
clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I
know
of).
Most
of
my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner
of
the
business
card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent
additions.
--
Kevin Carlson

It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did no
importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during
April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about importing
or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the
contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a time
using the standard menu options.

Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in the
left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always use
the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and
never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook 2003
I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have, when
viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that looks
like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right
corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left
most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle.

--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It
is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier
versions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the
'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact
icon
resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in
its
lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon
execpt
those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't
understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact
icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't
understanding
each other as to the format of the icon.
This is a non-issue.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle
in
the
lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any
contact
I
create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an
existing
contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same
Company) I
stil get the old icon.

I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this
didn't
fix the problem. Any suggestions?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year
old,
but
some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing
is,
everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything
after
4/18
does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon?

Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance
problem.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally
created
in
Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts
were
created from scratch only in Outlook 2003?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation
Date,
then
I
sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created
after
April
18th
2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact
created
before
4/18 HAS the little circle thingie.

I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ,
since
this
doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier
versions
of
Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote
in
message
...
In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2
different
icons.
One type is the standard icon that looks like a little
business
card.
The
other type is the same little business card, but also has a
little
circle
in
the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of
resembles
a
little
clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I
know
of).
Most
of
my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner
of
the
business
card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent
additions.
--
Kevin Carlson

But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as
long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your
current installation?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did
no
importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during
April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about
importing
or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the
contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a
time
using the standard menu options.

Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in
the
left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always
use
the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and
never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook
2003
I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have,
when
viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that
looks
like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right
corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left
most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle.

--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions
are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon.
It
is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier
versions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that
the
'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new'
contact
icon
resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon
in
its
lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon
execpt
those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't
understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old
Contact
icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't
understanding
each other as to the format of the icon.
This is a non-issue.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook
circle
in
the
lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any
contact
I
create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an
existing
contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same
Company) I
stil get the old icon.

I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this
didn't
fix the problem. Any suggestions?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a
year
old,
but
some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny
thing
is,
everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie.
Everything
after
4/18
does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon?

Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a
performance
problem.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally
created
in
Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your
Contacts
were
created from scratch only in Outlook 2003?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote
in
message
...
I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation
Date,
then
I
sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created
after
April
18th
2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact
created
before
4/18 HAS the little circle thingie.

I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ,
since
this
doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier
versions
of
Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson"
wrote
in
message
...
In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2
different
icons.
One type is the standard icon that looks like a little
business
card.
The
other type is the same little business card, but also has a
little
circle
in
the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of
resembles
a
little
clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I
know
of).
Most
of
my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right
corner
of
the
business
card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent
additions.
--
Kevin Carlson

I've never had to export. I've always installed newer versions of Outlook
over older versions. When I bought new computers (twice) I manually entered
my few contacts via keyboard. And most of my contacts were created for the
first time in Office 2003. See, I used to use Outlook for only a few dozen
contacts. Then, with Outlook 2003, I started converting all of customers'
business cards to Outlook. That's when my contact list really exploded

And that wouldn't explain my current situation. All contacts before a
4/18/05 have one icon, all after 4/18/05 have a different icon, even though
I've changed nothing. It also wouldn't explain how all of the prior contacts
(some going back 12 years) all have the same icon, or why some contacts
created in Outlook 2003 have one icon, while others have a different icon.

Know what, Russ? You've been a real patient prince about this whole thing.
But bottom line is 'It's not that big of a deal. I'd say you've gone way WAY
out of your way to help on this, but let's close out the thread and call it
"Unanswerable ... the truth is out there ... somewhere". Thanks for your
help on this. You earned your pay.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as
long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your
current installation?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did
no
importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during
April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about
importing
or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the
contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a
time
using the standard menu options.

Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in
the
left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always
use
the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and
never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook
2003
I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have,
when
viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that
looks
like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right
corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left
most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle.

--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions
are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon.
It
is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier
versions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that
the
'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new'
contact
icon
resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon
in
its
lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon
execpt
those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't
understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old
Contact
icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't
understanding
each other as to the format of the icon.
This is a non-issue.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook
circle
in
the
lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any
contact
I
create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an
existing
contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same
Company) I
stil get the old icon.

I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this
didn't
fix the problem. Any suggestions?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a
year
old,
but
some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny
thing
is,
everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie.
Everything
after
4/18
does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon?

Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a
performance
problem.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally
created
in
Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your
Contacts
were
created from scratch only in Outlook 2003?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote
in
message
...
I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation
Date,
then
I
sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created
after
April
18th
2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact
created
before
4/18 HAS the little circle thingie.

I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ,
since
this
doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier
versions
of
Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson"
wrote
in
message
...
In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2
different
icons.
One type is the standard icon that looks like a little
business
card.
The
other type is the same little business card, but also has a
little
circle
in
the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of
resembles
a
little
clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I
know
of).
Most
of
my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right
corner
of
the
business
card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent
additions.
--
Kevin Carlson

Well since I get paid nothing, I'll take it as a compliment nonetheless.
It is disquieting to have behavior that is unexplained. What's odd is that I
can't remember any of the Contacts icons that ever had a "clock." Not even
appointment or task icons have a clock. I think the Journal icon does.
If you search your Microsoft Office folder for *.ico, does this icon show
up? If so, what name does it have?
From my memory Contact icons had one of three formats:
1. A Rolodex card was only seen in Outlook 2000 IMO when the WAB shared the
Contacts Folder
2. Black and white business cards in Outlook 97-2002
3. Color business cards in Outlook 2003.

If you don't have a lot of customized views, you can run Outlook once with
the /cleanviews switch and see if that straightens things out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
I've never had to export. I've always installed newer versions of Outlook
over older versions. When I bought new computers (twice) I manually
entered
my few contacts via keyboard. And most of my contacts were created for
the
first time in Office 2003. See, I used to use Outlook for only a few
dozen
contacts. Then, with Outlook 2003, I started converting all of customers'
business cards to Outlook. That's when my contact list really exploded

And that wouldn't explain my current situation. All contacts before a
4/18/05 have one icon, all after 4/18/05 have a different icon, even
though
I've changed nothing. It also wouldn't explain how all of the prior
contacts
(some going back 12 years) all have the same icon, or why some contacts
created in Outlook 2003 have one icon, while others have a different icon.

Know what, Russ? You've been a real patient prince about this whole
thing.
But bottom line is 'It's not that big of a deal. I'd say you've gone way
WAY
out of your way to help on this, but let's close out the thread and call
it
"Unanswerable ... the truth is out there ... somewhere". Thanks for your
help on this. You earned your pay.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions,
as
long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your
current installation?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I
did
no
importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind
during
April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about
importing
or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the
contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a
time
using the standard menu options.

Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in
the
left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I
always
use
the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List)
and
never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/
Outlook
2003
I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have,
when
viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that
looks
like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom
right
corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the
left
most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle.

--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your
descriptions
are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old
icon.
It
is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier
versions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand
that
the
'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new'
contact
icon
resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle
icon
in
its
lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new'
icon
execpt
those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't
understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old
Contact
icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to
me?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't
understanding
each other as to the format of the icon.
This is a non-issue.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook
circle
in
the
lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now,
any
contact
I
create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an
existing
contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same
Company) I
stil get the old icon.

I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but
this
didn't
fix the problem. Any suggestions?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote
in
message
...
All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a
year
old,
but
some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny
thing
is,
everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie.
Everything
after
4/18
does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New'
icon?

Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a
performance
problem.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were
originally
created
in
Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your
Contacts
were
created from scratch only in Outlook 2003?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson"
wrote
in
message
...
I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the
Creation
Date,
then
I
sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact
created
after
April
18th
2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact
created
before
4/18 HAS the little circle thingie.

I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this,
Russ,
since
this
doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier
versions
of
Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson"
wrote
in
message
...
In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts
with 2
different
icons.
One type is the standard icon that looks like a little
business
card.
The
other type is the same little business card, but also
has a
little
circle
in
the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of
resembles
a
little
clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that
I
know
of).
Most
of
my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right
corner
of
the
business
card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more
recent
additions.
--
Kevin Carlson

One other thought. In place upgrades of Office wreak havoc on Outlook
profiles.
Have you done any maintenance on yours? For sure I'd run the Inbox Repair
Tool on your PST file and consider creating a new profile from scratch if
you didn't do so after your last upgrade.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as
long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your
current installation?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did
no
importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during
April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about
importing
or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the
contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a
time
using the standard menu options.

Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in
the
left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always
use
the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and
never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook
2003
I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have,
when
viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that
looks
like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom
right
corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left
most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle.

--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions
are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon.
It
is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier
versions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that
the
'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new'
contact
icon
resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon
in
its
lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon
execpt
those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't
understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old
Contact
icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't
understanding
each other as to the format of the icon.
This is a non-issue.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook
circle
in
the
lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any
contact
I
create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an
existing
contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same
Company) I
stil get the old icon.

I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this
didn't
fix the problem. Any suggestions?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a
year
old,
but
some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny
thing
is,
everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie.
Everything
after
4/18
does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon?

Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a
performance
problem.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally
created
in
Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your
Contacts
were
created from scratch only in Outlook 2003?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote
in
message
...
I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the
Creation
Date,
then
I
sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created
after
April
18th
2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact
created
before
4/18 HAS the little circle thingie.

I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ,
since
this
doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier
versions
of
Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson"
wrote
in
message
...
In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with
2
different
icons.
One type is the standard icon that looks like a little
business
card.
The
other type is the same little business card, but also has
a
little
circle
in
the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of
resembles
a
little
clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I
know
of).
Most
of
my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right
corner
of
the
business
card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent
additions.
--
Kevin Carlson

Thanks again, Russ. I forgot about the old black and white icon. Mine are
all color. The only .ico files are the standard color contact icon w/
nothing in the lower right corner. I also searched some of the .dll files in
outlook, same result ... standard color contact icon.

I ran the inbox cleanup tool and thanks for telling me about it. It's
something I'll keep in a shortcut just in case I need it. I also ran outlook
w/ the /cleanview option.

Thanks again, Russ. Have a great day.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Well since I get paid nothing, I'll take it as a compliment nonetheless.
It is disquieting to have behavior that is unexplained. What's odd is that I
can't remember any of the Contacts icons that ever had a "clock." Not even
appointment or task icons have a clock. I think the Journal icon does.
If you search your Microsoft Office folder for *.ico, does this icon show
up? If so, what name does it have?
From my memory Contact icons had one of three formats:
1. A Rolodex card was only seen in Outlook 2000 IMO when the WAB shared the
Contacts Folder
2. Black and white business cards in Outlook 97-2002
3. Color business cards in Outlook 2003.

If you don't have a lot of customized views, you can run Outlook once with
the /cleanviews switch and see if that straightens things out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
I've never had to export. I've always installed newer versions of Outlook
over older versions. When I bought new computers (twice) I manually
entered
my few contacts via keyboard. And most of my contacts were created for
the
first time in Office 2003. See, I used to use Outlook for only a few
dozen
contacts. Then, with Outlook 2003, I started converting all of customers'
business cards to Outlook. That's when my contact list really exploded

And that wouldn't explain my current situation. All contacts before a
4/18/05 have one icon, all after 4/18/05 have a different icon, even
though
I've changed nothing. It also wouldn't explain how all of the prior
contacts
(some going back 12 years) all have the same icon, or why some contacts
created in Outlook 2003 have one icon, while others have a different icon.

Know what, Russ? You've been a real patient prince about this whole
thing.
But bottom line is 'It's not that big of a deal. I'd say you've gone way
WAY
out of your way to help on this, but let's close out the thread and call
it
"Unanswerable ... the truth is out there ... somewhere". Thanks for your
help on this. You earned your pay.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions,
as
long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your
current installation?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in message
...
It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I
did
no
importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind
during
April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about
importing
or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the
contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a
time
using the standard menu options.

Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in
the
left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I
always
use
the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List)
and
never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/
Outlook
2003
I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have,
when
viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that
looks
like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom
right
corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the
left
most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle.

--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your
descriptions
are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old
icon.
It
is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier
versions.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand
that
the
'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new'
contact
icon
resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle
icon
in
its
lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new'
icon
execpt
those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't
understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old
Contact
icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to
me?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't
understanding
each other as to the format of the icon.
This is a non-issue.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote in
message
...
Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook
circle
in
the
lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now,
any
contact
I
create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an
existing
contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same
Company) I
stil get the old icon.

I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but
this
didn't
fix the problem. Any suggestions?
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson" wrote
in
message
...
All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a
year
old,
but
some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny
thing
is,
everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie.
Everything
after
4/18
does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New'
icon?

Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a
performance
problem.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were
originally
created
in
Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your
Contacts
were
created from scratch only in Outlook 2003?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson"
wrote
in
message
...
I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the
Creation
Date,
then
I
sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact
created
after
April
18th
2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact
created
before
4/18 HAS the little circle thingie.

I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this,
Russ,
since
this
doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance.
--
Kevin Carlson


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier
versions
of
Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kevin Carlson"
wrote
in
message
...
In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts
with 2
different
icons.
One type is the standard icon that looks like a little
business
card.
The
other type is the same little business card, but also
has a
little
circle
in
the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of
resembles
a
little
clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that
I
know
of).
Most
of
my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right
corner
of
the
business
card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more
recent
additions.
--
Kevin Carlson

I am not sure that I am answering your question, nor that the question
is even fundamentally worth answering.

There were three: the ordinary contacts "rolodex" icon, the
distribution lists icon, and a rolodex icon with a little circle and a
yellow line. I creating an "Icon" view to inspect the icons in detail
and sorted by icon to see if I could reason about any common
characteristics. The little circle logo that I observed was a clock.
The yellow line was a little yellow pencil. A timed pencil. Hmmmm.

I then created a table view with just the icon, flag status, follow-up
status, and journal, sorted by icon. That revealed that the clock and
pencil icon corresponded to the contacts that had Journal turned on
(from an experiment I had initiated).

If we are talking about the same icon, then your problem is solved. If
not, the method I used for inspecting the icon and sorting by
interesting (neglected ?) fields might help. I may turn off
journalling and get a little performance boost, so it wasn't all wasted.

Now that's very interesting. I looked at all of the affected Contacts and
all of the Contacts that had the newer, color Contact icon had journalling
turned off. I turned it on, but there is no effect yet.

I used your inspection method. I use 'small' icons, so two icon choices I
see are the standard color Contact icon and the same icon with a little clock
in the lower right corner. Could the clock really be a very small 'Outlook'
icon ... a large O with a small L in it ... similar to Outlook 2003's newer
task bar icon?

In any event, I'm turning journalling off, too. I never use it an it eats
up system resources and performance.

You know? Arsenio Hall would call this "Something that makes you go Hmmm".
--
Kevin Carlson


"ProfDD" wrote:

I am not sure that I am answering your question, nor that the question
is even fundamentally worth answering.

There were three: the ordinary contacts "rolodex" icon, the
distribution lists icon, and a rolodex icon with a little circle and a
yellow line. I creating an "Icon" view to inspect the icons in detail
and sorted by icon to see if I could reason about any common
characteristics. The little circle logo that I observed was a clock.
The yellow line was a little yellow pencil. A timed pencil. Hmmmm.

I then created a table view with just the icon, flag status, follow-up
status, and journal, sorted by icon. That revealed that the clock and
pencil icon corresponded to the contacts that had Journal turned on
(from an experiment I had initiated).

If we are talking about the same icon, then your problem is solved. If
not, the method I used for inspecting the icon and sorting by
interesting (neglected ?) fields might help. I may turn off
journalling and get a little performance boost, so it wasn't all wasted.

AND THAT'S A WRAP. You were right across the plate on the Journal thing.

Here's what happened. I've always kept journalling turned on. But I also
look at my contacts list in the 'phone list' view AND I remove many of the
unecessary columns (attachment, category, flag status, etc) just to make the
page a little cleaner. So I got used to not seeing the journal status of my
contacts.

Now, one of MVP Russ' suggestion was to run Outlook from the command line
with the ' / cleanvew' switch. This puts all of the normal columns back up
on the phone list and resets all of the views to factory status. Well, when
I look at the 'Journal' column in the refreshed phone list, there is a check
box. If I check the check box, the Contact icon changes, adding the circle
thingin (clock or Outlook icon, depending on your taste in these things).

So, PROBLEM SOLVED and thank you very much, ProfDD.

By the way, when you turn journalling off, get ready to take a coffee break.
It takes a while. I also use Outlook Live!, so the whole thing takes about
ten minutes.
--
Kevin Carlson


"ProfDD" wrote:

I am not sure that I am answering your question, nor that the question
is even fundamentally worth answering.

There were three: the ordinary contacts "rolodex" icon, the
distribution lists icon, and a rolodex icon with a little circle and a
yellow line. I creating an "Icon" view to inspect the icons in detail
and sorted by icon to see if I could reason about any common
characteristics. The little circle logo that I observed was a clock.
The yellow line was a little yellow pencil. A timed pencil. Hmmmm.

I then created a table view with just the icon, flag status, follow-up
status, and journal, sorted by icon. That revealed that the clock and
pencil icon corresponded to the contacts that had Journal turned on
(from an experiment I had initiated).

If we are talking about the same icon, then your problem is solved. If
not, the method I used for inspecting the icon and sorting by
interesting (neglected ?) fields might help. I may turn off
journalling and get a little performance boost, so it wasn't all wasted.