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December 7th, 2006, 10:58 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
You can buy it January 30. That should be before the expiration of the
trial period. Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : you were correct. However, now that i have updated to Outlook 2007 i am concerned about one thing: Will i be able to purchase 2007 before the review period runs out? Please tell me i will! Daryl.....BTW: Thanks for the help. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: That's the problem. You need to remove Outlook 2003, and then launch the 2007 setup program again to add Outlook 2007 (please do NOT uninstall 2007). Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : Yes, Outlook 2003 is still installed. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: Is Outlook 2003 still installed? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : In that case, it should be included, but what is actually listed is Outlook 2007 with Business Contact Manager, and there have been reports that BCM is all that's included. In either case, the chart is confusing, the choice of products included is confusing, and all this has been reported and discussed with the MS product team, so I think they're aware of the issues, at least. At any rate, if you can't find Outlook, look for BCM and hope that it includes Outlook. BTW, I assume you're talking about the chart at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/pr...35841033.aspx? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... The comparison chart indicates both Small Business and Professional have Outlook 2007????? Who Knows "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... Should have have gotten Outlook 2007 Trial with my Office 2007 Trial. It is "Not Available" if I try to add it in "Change" under Add/Remove Programs. 
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December 8th, 2006, 06:38 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
I have the same issue
 When I try to remove Outlook 2003 it does not appear in the add / remove programs folder... any suggestions? "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: You can buy it January 30. That should be before the expiration of the trial period. Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : you were correct. However, now that i have updated to Outlook 2007 i am concerned about one thing: Will i be able to purchase 2007 before the review period runs out? Please tell me i will! Daryl.....BTW: Thanks for the help. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: That's the problem. You need to remove Outlook 2003, and then launch the 2007 setup program again to add Outlook 2007 (please do NOT uninstall 2007). Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : Yes, Outlook 2003 is still installed. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: Is Outlook 2003 still installed? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : In that case, it should be included, but what is actually listed is Outlook 2007 with Business Contact Manager, and there have been reports that BCM is all that's included. In either case, the chart is confusing, the choice of products included is confusing, and all this has been reported and discussed with the MS product team, so I think they're aware of the issues, at least. At any rate, if you can't find Outlook, look for BCM and hope that it includes Outlook. BTW, I assume you're talking about the chart at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/pr...35841033.aspx? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... The comparison chart indicates both Small Business and Professional have Outlook 2007????? Who Knows "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... Should have have gotten Outlook 2007 Trial with my Office 2007 Trial. It is "Not Available" if I try to add it in "Change" under Add/Remove Programs.
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December 8th, 2006, 07:38 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
Did you check under Office Professional/Standard/etc 2003?
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Dewaine" wrote in message : I have the same issue When I try to remove Outlook 2003 it does notappear in the add / remove programs folder... any suggestions? "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: You can buy it January 30. That should be before the expiration of the trial period. Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : you were correct. However, now that i have updated to Outlook 2007 i am concerned about one thing: Will i be able to purchase 2007 before the review period runs out? Please tell me i will! Daryl.....BTW: Thanks for the help. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: That's the problem. You need to remove Outlook 2003, and then launch the 2007 setup program again to add Outlook 2007 (please do NOT uninstall 2007). Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : Yes, Outlook 2003 is still installed. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: Is Outlook 2003 still installed? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : In that case, it should be included, but what is actually listed is Outlook 2007 with Business Contact Manager, and there have been reports that BCM is all that's included. In either case, the chart is confusing, the choice of products included is confusing, and all this has been reported and discussed with the MS product team, so I think they're aware of the issues, at least. At any rate, if you can't find Outlook, look for BCM and hope that it includes Outlook. BTW, I assume you're talking about the chart at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/pr...35841033.aspx? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... The comparison chart indicates both Small Business and Professional have Outlook 2007????? Who Knows "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... Should have have gotten Outlook 2007 Trial with my Office 2007 Trial. It is "Not Available" if I try to add it in "Change" under Add/Remove Programs.
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December 11th, 2006, 06:14 AM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
Suzanne,
Only one 2007 Office system suite does not include Outlook 2007, the MS Office 2007 Home and Student Edition. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/su...635841033.aspx Some functionality of Outlook for that Edition can be 'gained' by using the http://officelive.com, and/or in Windows Vista, Windows Mail. MS Office Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager (BCM) is a separately installed, Small Business tool Add-in for Outlook 2007 and Outlook is an included prerequisite in the chart. There are, for some Office 2007 trial additions that have two separate download portions (CD Images) and some folks have tried to install the equivalent of 'CD #2' first. If Outlook 2007 isn't replaced by an installation of Office 2007 (using the default 'upgrade' choice) it can be due to the previous version having some possible damage, often from registry or file cleaners, or from deleting, manually files from the \MSOCache or \Windows\Installer folders at some point in the life of the prior version. These 'issues' may not show up in day to day use of the products. It can be helpful, when upgrading to Office 2007 to back up files (of course g) but to then try to complete a Detect & Repair or Repair/Reinstall before proceeding. If the prior version installation is damaged then Office 2007 may not 'see' accurately what is installed and could then leave older version apps behind. ============== "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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December 11th, 2006, 02:39 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
Okay, that makes sense. I was going on discussions in the private Office NG
about Outlook vs. Outlook with BCM. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Suzanne, Only one 2007 Office system suite does not include Outlook 2007, the MS Office 2007 Home and Student Edition. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/su...635841033.aspx Some functionality of Outlook for that Edition can be 'gained' by using the http://officelive.com, and/or in Windows Vista, Windows Mail. MS Office Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager (BCM) is a separately installed, Small Business tool Add-in for Outlook 2007 and Outlook is an included prerequisite in the chart. There are, for some Office 2007 trial additions that have two separate download portions (CD Images) and some folks have tried to install the equivalent of 'CD #2' first. If Outlook 2007 isn't replaced by an installation of Office 2007 (using the default 'upgrade' choice) it can be due to the previous version having some possible damage, often from registry or file cleaners, or from deleting, manually files from the \MSOCache or \Windows\Installer folders at some point in the life of the prior version. These 'issues' may not show up in day to day use of the products. It can be helpful, when upgrading to Office 2007 to back up files (of course g) but to then try to complete a Detect & Repair or Repair/Reinstall before proceeding. If the prior version installation is damaged then Office 2007 may not 'see' accurately what is installed and could then leave older version apps behind. ============== "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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#16
December 13th, 2006, 04:41 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
Outlook did not install when I downloaded the trial program today. I have
uninstalled the Outlook program on my computer, but it is still coming up as not available on the installation. Any suggestions? -- Ted "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: Did you check under Office Professional/Standard/etc 2003? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Dewaine" wrote in message : I have the same issue When I try to remove Outlook 2003 it does notappear in the add / remove programs folder... any suggestions? "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: You can buy it January 30. That should be before the expiration of the trial period. Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : you were correct. However, now that i have updated to Outlook 2007 i am concerned about one thing: Will i be able to purchase 2007 before the review period runs out? Please tell me i will! Daryl.....BTW: Thanks for the help. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: That's the problem. You need to remove Outlook 2003, and then launch the 2007 setup program again to add Outlook 2007 (please do NOT uninstall 2007). Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : Yes, Outlook 2003 is still installed. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: Is Outlook 2003 still installed? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : In that case, it should be included, but what is actually listed is Outlook 2007 with Business Contact Manager, and there have been reports that BCM is all that's included. In either case, the chart is confusing, the choice of products included is confusing, and all this has been reported and discussed with the MS product team, so I think they're aware of the issues, at least. At any rate, if you can't find Outlook, look for BCM and hope that it includes Outlook. BTW, I assume you're talking about the chart at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/pr...35841033.aspx? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... The comparison chart indicates both Small Business and Professional have Outlook 2007????? Who Knows "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... Should have have gotten Outlook 2007 Trial with my Office 2007 Trial. It is "Not Available" if I try to add it in "Change" under Add/Remove Programs.
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December 13th, 2006, 05:38 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
So you removed Outlook 2003 and then started the 2007 setup again from
the 2007 ISO/CD? And you still cannot change the red X to something else by clicking it directly? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Ted" wrote in message : Outlook did not install when I downloaded the trial program today. I have uninstalled the Outlook program on my computer, but it is still coming up as not available on the installation. Any suggestions? -- Ted "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: Did you check under Office Professional/Standard/etc 2003? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Dewaine" wrote in message : I have the same issue When I try to remove Outlook 2003 it does notappear in the add / remove programs folder... any suggestions? "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: You can buy it January 30. That should be before the expiration of the trial period. Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : you were correct. However, now that i have updated to Outlook 2007 i am concerned about one thing: Will i be able to purchase 2007 before the review period runs out? Please tell me i will! Daryl.....BTW: Thanks for the help. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: That's the problem. You need to remove Outlook 2003, and then launch the 2007 setup program again to add Outlook 2007 (please do NOT uninstall 2007). Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Daryl" wrote in message : Yes, Outlook 2003 is still installed. "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote: Is Outlook 2003 still installed? Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message : In that case, it should be included, but what is actually listed is Outlook 2007 with Business Contact Manager, and there have been reports that BCM is all that's included. In either case, the chart is confusing, the choice of products included is confusing, and all this has been reported and discussed with the MS product team, so I think they're aware of the issues, at least. At any rate, if you can't find Outlook, look for BCM and hope that it includes Outlook. BTW, I assume you're talking about the chart at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/pr...35841033.aspx? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... The comparison chart indicates both Small Business and Professional have Outlook 2007????? Who Knows "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daryl" wrote in message ... Should have have gotten Outlook 2007 Trial with my Office 2007 Trial. It is "Not Available" if I try to add it in "Change" under Add/Remove Programs.
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December 15th, 2006, 09:19 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
Suzanne, I too am having trouble. I read the previous inforation,
uninstalled my outlook 2003 and tried the reinstall of 2007. I still have no outlook avaliable and I also thought I was getting the Business Contact Manager (BCM). I would very much like to own 2007 only if I can get outlook and BCM! -- NGray "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Okay, that makes sense. I was going on discussions in the private Office NG about Outlook vs. Outlook with BCM. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Suzanne, Only one 2007 Office system suite does not include Outlook 2007, the MS Office 2007 Home and Student Edition. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/su...635841033.aspx Some functionality of Outlook for that Edition can be 'gained' by using the http://officelive.com, and/or in Windows Vista, Windows Mail. MS Office Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager (BCM) is a separately installed, Small Business tool Add-in for Outlook 2007 and Outlook is an included prerequisite in the chart. There are, for some Office 2007 trial additions that have two separate download portions (CD Images) and some folks have tried to install the equivalent of 'CD #2' first. If Outlook 2007 isn't replaced by an installation of Office 2007 (using the default 'upgrade' choice) it can be due to the previous version having some possible damage, often from registry or file cleaners, or from deleting, manually files from the \MSOCache or \Windows\Installer folders at some point in the life of the prior version. These 'issues' may not show up in day to day use of the products. It can be helpful, when upgrading to Office 2007 to back up files (of course g) but to then try to complete a Detect & Repair or Repair/Reinstall before proceeding. If the prior version installation is damaged then Office 2007 may not 'see' accurately what is installed and could then leave older version apps behind. ============== "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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December 15th, 2006, 11:01 PM
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
It turns out that the issue is more complex than expected: Outlook is not
installed with the trial version because it *is* a trial. Here's the official explanation: "Because a Trial is a product that is normally installed for temporary use since it expires, the default behavior is replacement of the 'Upgrade' button with the 'Install' button. This means that when the user clicks on the 'Install' button, no legacy Office products are removed (including Outlook). Since the legacy version of Outlook is not being removed, Outlook 2007 is not installed. [Only one version of Outlook can be installed on a given system.]" The same official source writes: "Because this is a confusing area, I've submitted a request for a KB article to make it clearer to users what is happening. The KB will explain both the Trial and non-Trial behaviors. Once the KB is created, I'll request that this info be provided on the Trial web pages. "This change in behavior for Office 2007 Trial products should make it easier for users to go back to the older version of Office." This is an unusual situation in that a great many users who are installing the trial version of Office 2007 have every intention of upgrading when the retail version is available, so they want to go ahead and upgrade rather than install side by side with Office 2003, but this is evidently not quite possible at the moment. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "NGray" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I too am having trouble. I read the previous inforation, uninstalled my outlook 2003 and tried the reinstall of 2007. I still have no outlook avaliable and I also thought I was getting the Business Contact Manager (BCM). I would very much like to own 2007 only if I can get outlook and BCM! -- NGray "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Okay, that makes sense. I was going on discussions in the private Office NG about Outlook vs. Outlook with BCM. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Suzanne, Only one 2007 Office system suite does not include Outlook 2007, the MS Office 2007 Home and Student Edition. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/su...635841033.aspx Some functionality of Outlook for that Edition can be 'gained' by using the http://officelive.com, and/or in Windows Vista, Windows Mail. MS Office Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager (BCM) is a separately installed, Small Business tool Add-in for Outlook 2007 and Outlook is an included prerequisite in the chart. There are, for some Office 2007 trial additions that have two separate download portions (CD Images) and some folks have tried to install the equivalent of 'CD #2' first. If Outlook 2007 isn't replaced by an installation of Office 2007 (using the default 'upgrade' choice) it can be due to the previous version having some possible damage, often from registry or file cleaners, or from deleting, manually files from the \MSOCache or \Windows\Installer folders at some point in the life of the prior version. These 'issues' may not show up in day to day use of the products. It can be helpful, when upgrading to Office 2007 to back up files (of course g) but to then try to complete a Detect & Repair or Repair/Reinstall before proceeding. If the prior version installation is damaged then Office 2007 may not 'see' accurately what is installed and could then leave older version apps behind. ============== "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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I did not get Outlook 2007 with my Office 2007 Trial Version.
So when is it going to be available?
-- NGray "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It turns out that the issue is more complex than expected: Outlook is not installed with the trial version because it *is* a trial. Here's the official explanation: "Because a Trial is a product that is normally installed for temporary use since it expires, the default behavior is replacement of the 'Upgrade' button with the 'Install' button. This means that when the user clicks on the 'Install' button, no legacy Office products are removed (including Outlook). Since the legacy version of Outlook is not being removed, Outlook 2007 is not installed. [Only one version of Outlook can be installed on a given system.]" The same official source writes: "Because this is a confusing area, I've submitted a request for a KB article to make it clearer to users what is happening. The KB will explain both the Trial and non-Trial behaviors. Once the KB is created, I'll request that this info be provided on the Trial web pages. "This change in behavior for Office 2007 Trial products should make it easier for users to go back to the older version of Office." This is an unusual situation in that a great many users who are installing the trial version of Office 2007 have every intention of upgrading when the retail version is available, so they want to go ahead and upgrade rather than install side by side with Office 2003, but this is evidently not quite possible at the moment. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "NGray" wrote in message ... Suzanne, I too am having trouble. I read the previous inforation, uninstalled my outlook 2003 and tried the reinstall of 2007. I still have no outlook avaliable and I also thought I was getting the Business Contact Manager (BCM). I would very much like to own 2007 only if I can get outlook and BCM! -- NGray "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Okay, that makes sense. I was going on discussions in the private Office NG about Outlook vs. Outlook with BCM. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Suzanne, Only one 2007 Office system suite does not include Outlook 2007, the MS Office 2007 Home and Student Edition. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/su...635841033.aspx Some functionality of Outlook for that Edition can be 'gained' by using the http://officelive.com, and/or in Windows Vista, Windows Mail. MS Office Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager (BCM) is a separately installed, Small Business tool Add-in for Outlook 2007 and Outlook is an included prerequisite in the chart. There are, for some Office 2007 trial additions that have two separate download portions (CD Images) and some folks have tried to install the equivalent of 'CD #2' first. If Outlook 2007 isn't replaced by an installation of Office 2007 (using the default 'upgrade' choice) it can be due to the previous version having some possible damage, often from registry or file cleaners, or from deleting, manually files from the \MSOCache or \Windows\Installer folders at some point in the life of the prior version. These 'issues' may not show up in day to day use of the products. It can be helpful, when upgrading to Office 2007 to back up files (of course g) but to then try to complete a Detect & Repair or Repair/Reinstall before proceeding. If the prior version installation is damaged then Office 2007 may not 'see' accurately what is installed and could then leave older version apps behind. ============== "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Confusingly, many SKUs of Office 2007 do not include Outlook. Someone somewhere must have some rationale for this, but no one I have talked to can figure out the reasoning. It's understandable that large corporate networks might be using Exchange, but small business? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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