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Old April 10th, 2007, 09:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Ariel
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it contains
fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own?
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Old April 10th, 2007, 11:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Daiya Mitchell
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all
situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at
present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the
code, so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something
called XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure.

Ariel wrote:
Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it contains
fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own?

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Old April 11th, 2007, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Tony Jollans
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the
bibliography styles are built in to Word and not even customisable through
XML.

--
Enjoy,

Tony Jollans
Microsoft Word MVP

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all
situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at
present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code,
so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called
XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure.

Ariel wrote:
Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it
contains fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own?



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Old June 4th, 2007, 11:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
SHaroz
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at
Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are
bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office12\Bibliography

-SHaroz

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the
bibliography styles are built in to Word and not even customisable through
XML.

--
Enjoy,

Tony Jollans
Microsoft Word MVP

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all
situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at
present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code,
so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called
XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure.

Ariel wrote:
Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it
contains fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own?




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Old June 6th, 2008, 08:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Chemie
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

Can you advice me what I should do to change (52) to [52]?

"SHaroz" wrote:

They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at
Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are
bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office12\Bibliography

-SHaroz

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the
bibliography styles are built in to Word and not even customisable through
XML.

--
Enjoy,

Tony Jollans
Microsoft Word MVP

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all
situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at
present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code,
so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called
XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure.

Ariel wrote:
Word 2007 brings the possibility of making a bibliography, but it
contains fixed bibliography styles. How can I make one of my own?




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Old June 9th, 2008, 03:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
p0
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

Hello Chemie,

Changing the braces is often easily done, it's just a matter of
changing a few lines of xslt. So if you can tell me the style name, I
can probably tell you what to change.


Yves
--
For more Word 2007 Bibliography info, check out http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography

On Jun 6, 9:37*am, Chemie wrote:
Can you advice me what I should do to change (52) to [52]?



"SHaroz" wrote:
They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at
Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are
bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office12\Bibliography


-SHaroz


"Tony Jollans" wrote:


I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the
bibliographystyles are built in to Word and not even customisable through
XML.


--
Enjoy,


Tony Jollans
Microsoft Word MVP


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all
situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at
present there seems to be no documentation on how *to customize the code,
so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called
XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure.


Ariel wrote:
Word 2007 brings the possibility of making abibliography, but it
contains fixedbibliographystyles. How can I make one of my own?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


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Old June 18th, 2008, 02:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Nandha
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

Hello Yves

Could you make the chicago style to a numbered style and i would like to
make it into [] instead of ()

Thanks


"p0" wrote:

Hello Chemie,

Changing the braces is often easily done, it's just a matter of
changing a few lines of xslt. So if you can tell me the style name, I
can probably tell you what to change.


Yves
--
For more Word 2007 Bibliography info, check out http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography

On Jun 6, 9:37 am, Chemie wrote:
Can you advice me what I should do to change (52) to [52]?



"SHaroz" wrote:
They ARE customizable. However, for reasons unknown to me, the wise people at
Microsoft decided to make custimization unimaginably difficult. If you are
bold enough to try, all unintelligable data is in C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office12\Bibliography


-SHaroz


"Tony Jollans" wrote:


I'm not certain - so please don't quote me - but I suspect that the
bibliographystyles are built in to Word and not even customisable through
XML.


--
Enjoy,


Tony Jollans
Microsoft Word MVP


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Sorry, the Citation Manager is limited and will not work for all
situations. It can only be customized by digging into the code and at
present there seems to be no documentation on how to customize the code,
so that's not very feasible. I believe you have to know something called
XSLT, which may be part of XML, although I am not entirely sure.


Ariel wrote:
Word 2007 brings the possibility of making abibliography, but it
contains fixedbibliographystyles. How can I make one of my own?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



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Old June 19th, 2008, 08:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
p0
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

On 18 Jun, 15:58, Nandha wrote:
Hello Yves

Could you make the chicago style to a numbered style and i would like to
make it into [] instead of ()

Thanks



"p0" wrote:


Dear Nandha,

In the Chicago reference style, the elements in the bibliography are
ordered in a certain way (alphabetically by main contributor). So if
you want the in-text citations to be numbered, you would have to
communicate the place of an entry from the bibliography to the
citation. To my knowledge this is not possible in Word 2007. I posted
some notes as to why at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...ThreadId=28347
(5th post).

If you want to use numbers in-text, your only option is to 'sort' your
bibliography at the end of your text in the order the citation
elements appear in the text. Is that ok with you? If not, I'm afraid I
can't help you. If it is, let me know and I'll post the changes. Also
tell me if, in your bibliography at the bottom, the text should be
aligned differently from the number (hanging) or not. I mean (hoping
this gets formatted correctly):
[1] xyz
abc (with abc being under xyz)

or

[1] xyz
abc (with abc being under the number)

BR,

Yves
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Old June 19th, 2008, 08:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Nandha
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

Dear Yves, i think sorting is better than nothing, and my option would go to
the first one

[1] xyz
abc (with abc being under xyz)


so this means that i cannot put numbers in the citation ( i have to do it
manually )?, because in the chicago style, it will put (names, years) instead
of (index number) basically for citation i would like to use the numbered
ISO, but for the bibliography i would like to use the chicago style with
number, but any of that improvement is fine by me. Because i already got the
answer, no matter what we will have to edit it manually in the end.

Thank you Yves

PS : I gave up writing my thesis using LATEX because of time limit (don't
have much time to make a template), so i will use WYSIWYG like word instead,
but i am beginning to like word cause you can work with script using visual
studio, also.

"p0" wrote:

On 18 Jun, 15:58, Nandha wrote:
Hello Yves

Could you make the chicago style to a numbered style and i would like to
make it into [] instead of ()

Thanks



"p0" wrote:


Dear Nandha,

In the Chicago reference style, the elements in the bibliography are
ordered in a certain way (alphabetically by main contributor). So if
you want the in-text citations to be numbered, you would have to
communicate the place of an entry from the bibliography to the
citation. To my knowledge this is not possible in Word 2007. I posted
some notes as to why at http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...ThreadId=28347
(5th post).

If you want to use numbers in-text, your only option is to 'sort' your
bibliography at the end of your text in the order the citation
elements appear in the text. Is that ok with you? If not, I'm afraid I
can't help you. If it is, let me know and I'll post the changes. Also
tell me if, in your bibliography at the bottom, the text should be
aligned differently from the number (hanging) or not. I mean (hoping
this gets formatted correctly):
[1] xyz
abc (with abc being under xyz)

or

[1] xyz
abc (with abc being under the number)

BR,

Yves

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Old June 21st, 2008, 12:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
p0
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Default How can I make a custom bibliography style?

On 19 jun, 09:56, Nandha wrote:
Dear Yves, i think sorting is better than nothing, and my option would go to
the first one

[1] xyz
* * *abc (with abc being under xyz)


so this means that i cannot put numbers in thecitation( i have to do it
manually )?, because in the chicago style, it will put (names, years) instead
of (index number) basically forcitationi would like to use the numbered
ISO, but for thebibliographyi would like to use the chicago style with
number, but any of that improvement is fine by me. Because i already got the
answer, no matter what we will have to edit it manually in the end.

Thank you Yves

PS : I gave up writing my thesis using LATEX because of time limit (don't
have much time to make a template), so i will use WYSIWYG like word instead,
but i am beginning to like word cause you can work with script using visual
studio, also.



Dear Nandha,

If you check the numbered ISO style (ISO 690 - Numerical Reference)
you will see that the entries in the bibliography at the bottom are
not sorted by name but rather by their position as in-text citation.
This is the only way you can use numbers as references in Word 2007.

http://www.codeplex.com/bibliography...eleaseId=14597
will do partially what you want. By removing the sorting rule (as
explained on the release notes) you will have your bibliography in
order. So if you then convert both your bibliography and your in-text
citations to static text, you will just have to do a find, replace
operation to change every [x] into an [y].

LaTeX also has WYSIWYG-editors, for example LEd (http://
www.latexeditor.org/). It is just that some projects stubbornly refuse
to build them in reasoning that you do not need them to verify the
layout.

BR,

Yves
 




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