Document management

I have recently been aproached with questions about
Document management / Relational Databases for managing
business. I also recently attended a presentation by an
IKon rep in which they tried to sell an mdse based
document management solution.

I know that given the skill and time, I could create this
solution for my friend with Access.

Can someone give me some perspective on this in terms of
time and effort.

Restated: for a small office 5 clients with 20-30 forms
and roughly 2000 total customers, is it practical to think
I would save money by creating an office/document
management solution with Access?????

Ikon quoted around $7000.00 out the door, if I hired an
Access developer would the cost equal, exceed, or be less?

Exceed, if you're thinking about something good enough to stake the
business on. And perhaps by quite a large margin: I took a look at
http://www.ikon-iss.com/ and the price for a 5-user bundle appears to be
$70,000 not $7000.

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:24:58 -0700, "instauratio"
wrote:

I have recently been aproached with questions about
Document management / Relational Databases for managing
business. I also recently attended a presentation by an
IKon rep in which they tried to sell an mdse based
document management solution.

I know that given the skill and time, I could create this
solution for my friend with Access.

Can someone give me some perspective on this in terms of
time and effort.

Restated: for a small office 5 clients with 20-30 forms
and roughly 2000 total customers, is it practical to think
I would save money by creating an office/document
management solution with Access?????

Ikon quoted around $7000.00 out the door, if I hired an
Access developer would the cost equal, exceed, or be less?

--
John Nurick [Microsoft Access MVP]

Please respond in the newgroup and not by email.

For an office document management relational database
using msde, the price for 10 concurrent connections was $7-
$10 thousand. I believe the product you saw at IKON was a
different product.

What I saw was a glorified ACCESS database. However, I
don't know what is involved with creating a database that
would simply manage documents and contacts. It seems at
first simple. The hardest part seems to be the creation of
the forms.

So, if I understand correctly it would cost more than
$7000 for an ACCESS developer to create this? Does that
mean I shouldn't attemp it?

Thanks for the imput, but I'm still uncertain.



-----Original Message-----

Exceed, if you're thinking about something good enough to
stake the
business on. And perhaps by quite a large margin: I took
a look at
http://www.ikon-iss.com/ and the price for a 5-user
bundle appears to be
$70,000 not $7000.

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:24:58 -0700, "instauratio"
wrote:

I have recently been aproached with questions about
Document management / Relational Databases for managing
business. I also recently attended a presentation by an
IKon rep in which they tried to sell an mdse based
document management solution.

I know that given the skill and time, I could create
this
solution for my friend with Access.

Can someone give me some perspective on this in terms of
time and effort.

Restated: for a small office 5 clients with 20-30 forms
and roughly 2000 total customers, is it practical to
think
I would save money by creating an office/document
management solution with Access?????

Ikon quoted around $7000.00 out the door, if I hired an
Access developer would the cost equal, exceed, or be
less?

--
John Nurick [Microsoft Access MVP]

Please respond in the newgroup and not by email.
.

I don't think you have a full understanding of a document management system
(or maybe what it could be). The manufacturing facility where I work is
under FDA regulation. A good DMS should provide work flow, revision history,
check-in/out, conversion and storage of different formats, automatic
generation of review dates, capture digital signatures, high level of
security, scanning, and much more.

If you are thinking about embarking on a project like this, make sure you
have a very well defined specifications document. Take a look at some of the
features of Documentum at www.documentum.com. This is one of the products we
are considering.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


"instauratio" wrote in message
...
For an office document management relational database
using msde, the price for 10 concurrent connections was $7-
$10 thousand. I believe the product you saw at IKON was a
different product.

What I saw was a glorified ACCESS database. However, I
don't know what is involved with creating a database that
would simply manage documents and contacts. It seems at
first simple. The hardest part seems to be the creation of
the forms.

So, if I understand correctly it would cost more than
$7000 for an ACCESS developer to create this? Does that
mean I shouldn't attemp it?

Thanks for the imput, but I'm still uncertain.



-----Original Message-----

Exceed, if you're thinking about something good enough to
stake the
business on. And perhaps by quite a large margin: I took
a look at
http://www.ikon-iss.com/ and the price for a 5-user
bundle appears to be
$70,000 not $7000.

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:24:58 -0700, "instauratio"
wrote:

I have recently been aproached with questions about
Document management / Relational Databases for managing
business. I also recently attended a presentation by an
IKon rep in which they tried to sell an mdse based
document management solution.

I know that given the skill and time, I could create
this
solution for my friend with Access.

Can someone give me some perspective on this in terms of
time and effort.

Restated: for a small office 5 clients with 20-30 forms
and roughly 2000 total customers, is it practical to
think
I would save money by creating an office/document
management solution with Access?????

Ikon quoted around $7000.00 out the door, if I hired an
Access developer would the cost equal, exceed, or be
less?

--
John Nurick [Microsoft Access MVP]

Please respond in the newgroup and not by email.
.

You are quite right, I absolutely do not have a sound
grasp. I'm closer though now that you have helped me.
Thank you. I'm going to recommend to my friend that he buy
a DMS.


-----Original Message-----
I don't think you have a full understanding of a document
management system
(or maybe what it could be). The manufacturing facility
where I work is
under FDA regulation. A good DMS should provide work
flow, revision history,
check-in/out, conversion and storage of different
formats, automatic
generation of review dates, capture digital signatures,
high level of
security, scanning, and much more.

If you are thinking about embarking on a project like
this, make sure you
have a very well defined specifications document. Take a
look at some of the
features of Documentum at www.documentum.com. This is one
of the products we
are considering.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


"instauratio" wrote
in message
...
For an office document management relational database
using msde, the price for 10 concurrent connections was
$7-
$10 thousand. I believe the product you saw at IKON was
a
different product.

What I saw was a glorified ACCESS database. However, I
don't know what is involved with creating a database
that
would simply manage documents and contacts. It seems at
first simple. The hardest part seems to be the creation
of
the forms.

So, if I understand correctly it would cost more than
$7000 for an ACCESS developer to create this? Does that
mean I shouldn't attemp it?

Thanks for the imput, but I'm still uncertain.



-----Original Message-----

Exceed, if you're thinking about something good enough
to
stake the
business on. And perhaps by quite a large margin: I
took
a look at
http://www.ikon-iss.com/ and the price for a 5-user
bundle appears to be
$70,000 not $7000.

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:24:58 -0700, "instauratio"
wrote:

I have recently been aproached with questions about
Document management / Relational Databases for
managing
business. I also recently attended a presentation by
an
IKon rep in which they tried to sell an mdse based
document management solution.

I know that given the skill and time, I could create
this
solution for my friend with Access.

Can someone give me some perspective on this in terms
of
time and effort.

Restated: for a small office 5 clients with 20-30
forms
and roughly 2000 total customers, is it practical to
think
I would save money by creating an office/document
management solution with Access?????

Ikon quoted around $7000.00 out the door, if I hired
an
Access developer would the cost equal, exceed, or be
less?

--
John Nurick [Microsoft Access MVP]

Please respond in the newgroup and not by email.
.



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