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  #41  
Old October 28th, 2006, 07:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
William Stacey [C# MVP]
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Default This is absurd

I think I remember having the same "issue". I think what happened was the
install uninstalled IE7 (*and rolled back last IE) first and asks for a
reboot before continue. When the machine started up, IE7 install had not
happened yet, only the uninstall step. You run setup again to install IE7
and it finished - for me without a reboot IIRC. It was a bit strange, but I
just thought I may have missed a dialog or two with some foggy clicking on
my part. But the sky did not fall down here and I don't think G gets this
close to the install process anymore.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
|I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize
| microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God, but
| what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble
with
| Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.
....


  #42  
Old October 28th, 2006, 07:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
William Stacey [C# MVP]
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Default I apologize

Actually, if you think about it, they may have done us all a big favor. So
many times a beta product does not uninstall all its hooks correctly and
even installing the new version does not fix it. It smells like they did a
very good job of removing the old and getting machine into a known good
state before the new install. It is just a guess, but I have not had any
issues since the new install.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
| I'm sorry for this post. I didn't want to offend, annoy or anger any of
you.
| I just get tired of constantly fighting with software, and this just
pushed
| me over the edge. Little quirks take too much of my time, and there are
| many of them.
|
|
|
|
| "Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
| ...
| I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
| criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as
your
| God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big
| trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.
|
| A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
| know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
| updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
| First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
| knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
| isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying
yes
| to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I
| said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of course I did.
| The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was being installed
| ( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said it was
uninstalling
| a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was
| asked to restart my computer and naturally I couldn't ignor that
request,
| becuase it kept coming back and bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing
| happened. So I tried to restart and it wouldn't. Finally after a
several
| attempts I opened the task manager and dumped a bunch of programs then
| was able to restart. After I restated, I opened up IE and went to open
a
| new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I like
| tabs, what happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled
| version 7 and installed version 6.
|
| Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
| suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!
|
| I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
| Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
| cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.
|
|
|


  #43  
Old October 30th, 2006, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Gary G. Little
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Default This is absurd

The question here is whether or not you can install the release version of
IE7 over a beta of IE7. I suspect that you cannot, and hence some of your
problems. From your original post, Mark I get the general feeling that you
did not bother to read the dialog boxes that popped up telling you to exit
any running programs before installing IE7. Lots of things I'll install
without doing that, but a new version of IE I consistently install with as
pristine a runtime as I can.

I down loaded and installed IE7 x64 over an existing IE6 install and thus
far (he says knocking on wood) I have had zero problems; if anything it is a
huge improvement over IE6 x64. Were I you, I'd un-install any instance of
IE7, get IE 6 happy and then upgrade to IE 7 again ... or just keep IE 6.

--
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"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
What's a beta? I wasn't informed that version 7 is a beta. I was
available on the Microsoft site as the new version. No beta involved.

"Leythos" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the cleaning
crew
and the cafeteria staff.


let's get this in perspective:

1) You installed a BETA product
2) You complain when you are using your computer and it alerts you that
it's about to install updates while you are using your computer
3) The update is for a BETA product
4) Your BETA test machine doesn't perform properly

What part of BETA don't you understand - if you are not prepared to deal
with problems then don't run BETA software.

If you are prepared to deal with problems associated with BETA software
you should have posts your statements as "I've tried to install IE7 BETA
update and I'm having problems".

Your first paragraph makes you appear to be trolling.

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  #44  
Old October 30th, 2006, 11:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Gordon
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Default This is absurd

"Gary G. Little" wrote in message
.. .
The question here is whether or not you can install the release version of
IE7 over a beta of IE7.



yes you can - the final release of IE7 uninstalls any existing beta as part
of its install process.




  #45  
Old October 31st, 2006, 12:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frank
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Default This is absurd

What is absurd is the obnoxious amount of crossposting that you started.

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as
your God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in
heap big trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying
yes to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it
said. I said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of
course I did. The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was
being installed ( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said
it was uninstalling a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And
rightfully so. I was asked to restart my computer and naturally I
couldn't ignor that request, becuase it kept coming back and bugging
me. So I said yes, and nothing happened. So I tried to restart and
it wouldn't. Finally after a several attempts I opened the task
manager and dumped a bunch of programs then was able to restart.
After I restated, I opened up IE and went to open a new tab and there
weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I like tabs, what
happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled version 7 and
installed version 6.

Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!

I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.



  #46  
Old October 31st, 2006, 03:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)
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Posts: 4
Default This is absurd

Did you notice that the groups you posted to (at least most) have NOTHING to
do with the topic you are raging on about? This makes you a TROLL. I am not
saying this because I worship Bill Gates as a god, but because in your "I
was robbed" speech, you stepped over the line as well. Makes it rather hard
to sit and take you seriously.

For the record, I think the IE 7 forced upgrade is unwise, perhaps even
stupid. It sounds like you had a bad upgrade. Download the bits and install
again. On the one machine that I have seen with a bad update, it worked fine
after that.

Next, if you decide to follow up, do this.

1. Write your rant
2. Erase it. You will now have calmed down
3. State your point in an intelligent and calm manner

If you follow this three step plan (to avoid having to go through a 12 step
plan :P), you will find that things are much nicer.

Now, to your issue: Did you notice any other symptoms of armeggedon other
than no tabs? :-)

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com

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"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your
God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big
trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying yes
to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I
said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of course I did.
The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was being installed
( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said it was uninstalling
a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was
asked to restart my computer and naturally I couldn't ignor that request,
becuase it kept coming back and bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing
happened. So I tried to restart and it wouldn't. Finally after a several
attempts I opened the task manager and dumped a bunch of programs then
was able to restart. After I restated, I opened up IE and went to open a
new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I like
tabs, what happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled
version 7 and installed version 6.

Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!

I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.



  #47  
Old October 31st, 2006, 08:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Brian Tillman
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Default This is absurd

Leythos wrote:

And we all know that all BETA applications uninstall completely and
properly without any chance that they will leave anything behind that
might cause problems :-)


Case in point. I installed the released IE7 on top of IE7 RC1 on two
different machines. HelpAbout shows version 7.0.5730.11 on one and
7.0.5730.11CO on the other. I have no idea why they're different.
--
Brian Tillman

  #48  
Old October 31st, 2006, 10:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Fat kev
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Posts: 5
Default This is absurd


I would ignore any names beginning with L. That individual is a
confirmed plonker.

"Mark A. Sam" wrote:

What's a beta? I wasn't informed that version 7 is a beta. I was available
on the Microsoft site as the new version. No beta involved.

"Leythos" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the cleaning
crew
and the cafeteria staff.


let's get this in perspective:

1) You installed a BETA product
2) You complain when you are using your computer and it alerts you that
it's about to install updates while you are using your computer
3) The update is for a BETA product
4) Your BETA test machine doesn't perform properly

What part of BETA don't you understand - if you are not prepared to deal
with problems then don't run BETA software.

If you are prepared to deal with problems associated with BETA software
you should have posts your statements as "I've tried to install IE7 BETA
update and I'm having problems".

Your first paragraph makes you appear to be trolling.

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