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  #21  
Old October 14th, 2009, 02:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
David W. Fenton
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Default A2007 - OLE vs. Attachements

Banana Banana@Republic wrote in news:4AD4E173.9020701@Republic:

It looks like Microsoft formed the Microsoft.Public
newsgroups in 1994, which is before any reliable web forum
software even existed and the only other good place was AOL
chatroom (?!)


I would say that a good news reader and a reliable newsfeed are
still vastly superior to any web-based discussion forum I've ever
encountered. Maybe the approach seeni in Google Wave will change
that, but we're a long way from that.

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  #22  
Old October 14th, 2009, 06:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
John W. Vinson
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:11 -0700, Banana Banana@Republic wrote:

It looks like Microsoft formed the Microsoft.Public
newsgroups in 1994, which is before any reliable web forum software even
existed and the only other good place was AOL chatroom (?!)


.... or CompuServe, where I was a Sysop before I started posting here...

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  #23  
Old October 15th, 2009, 04:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Fred
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From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low.
What terrible behavior!

Any regular reader knows that Gina's accuracy, expertise and helpfulness
have been established, beyond reproach. Not to mention the ultimate in
restraint is responding to such junk. So, now, beyond the other issues, he
has established himself who commits profane name calling in the forum against
such people.

  #24  
Old October 15th, 2009, 04:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
JohnLute
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David,

Thanks for the insight. I appreciate it however I don't need to have a clue
about all of the technology.That's your world! I'm simply an every day schlub
of a USER who has been asked to follow RULES. Now if the rules can't be
enforced then who is it that REALLY doesn't have a clue?

The rules might as well be thrown out if they can't be enforced. Since they
can't be enforced we have people creating websites - bordering on clinical
obsessiveness - that wage some kind of creepy info-attack on another person
just because they've "broken" these un-enforceable rules!

I guess I could figure out how to use the killfile but why should I? If the
rules are clear and users agree to them then MS should find a way to enforce
them. THAT is my point.

Chasing after Steve at every post - particularly if he's merely providing
info - is in equal violation of the rules. 2 wrongs don't = 1 right.

I think I learned that in 1st grade!

--
www.Marzetti.com


"David W. Fenton" wrote:

=?Utf-8?B?Sm9obkx1dGU=?= wrote
in :

it seems to me that the *bigger* problem is poor planning. If I
were to initiate a fine forum like this (and it truly is fine)
then I'd make sure that I could actually ENFORCE the Rules of
Conduct that people have been asked to respect! Otherwise, why
bother with any rules at all?


You really have no clue about Usenet, then.

Microsoft created the newsgroups. That means they created the
charter for the newsgroups. Repeated violation of the terms of a
newsgroup's charter can be grounds for losing your account with an
ISP, or the news provider.

This is not enforced as much as it once was, partly because many
ISPs ignore Usenet (neglecting their news server, or outsourcing it,
or providing none at all), and no longer employ people who
understand the rules of Usenet (people like yourself, for instance).

One aspect of the dropping of news servers by ISPs is that many
individuals now go to third-party news providers, either paid or
free, and that makes them *more* subject to discipline, since their
account is not with an ISP for general purposes including Usenet,
but it is with a Usenet provider for the sold purpose of using the
newsgroups. Thus, abuse of the terms of a newsgroup can easily be
punished by these 3rd-party news providers banning your account.

In this case, I think you have a point that people attacked Steve
for behavior he hasn't exhibited in this particular thread. That's
wrong, but hardly inexplicable. Steve has made his bed and he has to
lie in it. That means he's going to get treated unfairly in some
cases, but given that he has no respect for the groups he trolls for
work in, I shed no tears for him.

On the other hand, I wish there was more encouragement of his "good"
posts (like the one in this thread), since that might serve to nudge
him into behaving properly, such that he posted more helpful
responses and fewer solicitations. So, yes, it's unfortunate that
this happened, but it was initiated by someone who has been in my
killfile for a long time (and will remain there for the foreseeable
future), so that should tell you something right there.

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Old October 15th, 2009, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Marshall Barton
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Fred wrote:
From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low.


It's definitely a low point, but it's not a new low. This
behavior has occured many times over the years and is part
of the reason for the common response to his disregard of
community standards.

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  #26  
Old October 16th, 2009, 12:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
David W. Fenton
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=?Utf-8?B?Sm9obkx1dGU=?= wrote
in :

I'm simply an every day schlub
of a USER who has been asked to follow RULES. Now if the rules
can't be enforced then who is it that REALLY doesn't have a clue?


You're obviously a complete moron and proud of it. The result of
demonstrating that you don't give a rat's ass about learning about
the communities in which your are posting means that that I will
never read any of your posts ever again, nor offer you any comments
or assistance. Your probably don't care, of course, because if you
did, you wouldn't have posted such stupid statements in the first
place.

Buh-Bye!

PLONK

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  #27  
Old October 16th, 2009, 08:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
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"Fred" schreef in bericht
...
From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low.
What terrible behavior!


Nothing new low... just repeating low.
EVERYTHING that is stated at http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
is simply sad but true and can be checked. Loaded with links to previous posts to 'prove'
what is stated.
Sad but true!! No false accusations there.. .

This advertising of $teve is going on and on and on and on.
If $teve stops advertising the website will be gone (also stated there at the 'Website
stats' page)
It's as simple as that.

Arno R


  #28  
Old October 16th, 2009, 09:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Keith Wilby
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"JohnLute" wrote in message
...
I don't see it, either. So in this instance one could argue that StopThis
Advertising is in violation of harrassment.



This is Usenet. Simply KF StopThisAdvertising, job done.

  #29  
Old October 16th, 2009, 09:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Keith Wilby
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"Steve" wrote in message
m...
The second sentence in the so-called Rules of Conduct states, "Please
avoid personal attacks, slurs, and profanity in your interactions."



You mean like calling someone a "Bitch"? Hardly professional behaviour is
it $teve? You've already run out of feet to shoot yourself in, what next?
Prospective "clients" are taking note, of that I have no doubt.

  #30  
Old October 16th, 2009, 10:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
johnlute
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David W. Fenton wrote:

You're obviously a complete moron and proud of it.


Well, I'm not a COMPLETE moron. More accurately I'm a half-wit.
Miraculously, I've managed to maintain the half that works despite
enduring your glorifying pontifications about how much you know and
how little I don't.

The result of
demonstrating that you don't give a rat's ass about learning about
the communities in which your are posting means that that I will
never read any of your posts ever again, nor offer you any comments
or assistance.


If it helps you to sleep better at night...

Your probably don't care, of course, because if you
did, you wouldn't have posted such stupid statements in the first
place.


No. I don't care what you think of me. At least the half of my wit
that I use doesn't. Is there a reason why I should?

Buh-Bye!


Very original...
 




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