A unexpected behavior

In Excel 2003, a collegue has a file with a nuber of Merged cells. For a
reason that escapes our explanation, some rows, not necessarily with merged
cells, do not automatically resize row height when she uses Alt+Enter to
create a line break.
Is there an explanation for this behavior? Is there a method to correct
this without unmerging the cells.
Thanks
Marsh

Welcome to the wonderful world of merged cells which cause no end of
problems and should be banned from existence.

If cells are merged. the row will not autofit even with line-feeds and wrap
text enabled without using VBA

See google search thread for code by Greg Wilson. Watch out for word wrap
in the URL which all one line.

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...1c160cbeb27874


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:19:02 -0800, Marsh
wrote:

In Excel 2003, a collegue has a file with a nuber of Merged cells. For a
reason that escapes our explanation, some rows, not necessarily with merged
cells, do not automatically resize row height when she uses Alt+Enter to
create a line break.
Is there an explanation for this behavior? Is there a method to correct
this without unmerging the cells.
Thanks
Marsh

Welcome to the wonderful world of merged cells which cause no end of
problems and should be banned from existence.

Hi Gord,

There are times that merged cells come in handy.
My organisation has a timeheet that was probably created in Word
then converted to PDF and is available to all parts of the organisation
on the company Intranet as a standard form. The intended use of the
form is to be hand written.

I made an Excel version of the form that automated the input and calculated
times etc. but in order to re-create an EXACT replica of the original form I
needed to use merged cells.

Admittedly, due to the merged cells, it is not entirely user friendly, the
merged
cells can cause the odd minor problem, but it works very well for myself and
anyone else who is fairly competent in Excel.

Regards
Martin

Thanks Gord, I believe we will hence forth avoid merged cells, as much as
possible

"Gord Dibben" wrote:

Welcome to the wonderful world of merged cells which cause no end of
problems and should be banned from existence.

If cells are merged. the row will not autofit even with line-feeds and wrap
text enabled without using VBA

See google search thread for code by Greg Wilson. Watch out for word wrap
in the URL which all one line.

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...1c160cbeb27874


Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:19:02 -0800, Marsh
wrote:

In Excel 2003, a collegue has a file with a nuber of Merged cells. For a
reason that escapes our explanation, some rows, not necessarily with merged
cells, do not automatically resize row height when she uses Alt+Enter to
create a line break.
Is there an explanation for this behavior? Is there a method to correct
this without unmerging the cells.
Thanks
Marsh

MartinW;181377 Wrote:
Welcome to the wonderful world of merged cells which cause no end of
problems and should be banned from existence.

Hi Gord,

There are times that merged cells come in handy.
My organisation has a timeheet that was probably created in Word
then converted to PDF and is available to all parts of the
organisation
on the company Intranet as a standard form. The intended use of the
form is to be hand written.

I made an Excel version of the form that automated the input and
calculated
times etc. but in order to re-create an EXACT replica of the original
form I
needed to use merged cells.

Admittedly, due to the merged cells, it is not entirely user friendly,
the
merged
cells can cause the odd minor problem, but it works very well for
myself and
anyone else who is fairly competent in Excel.

Regards
Martin

Martin, merged cells can be easily replaced by using Format - center
across selection.
The effect is the same and the problems merged cells create are
avoided.
As to persons " fairly competent", I know a lot of MVP's who strongly
recommend AVOIDING merged cells at all costs ( save for cosmetic
purposes).
But if you want to stick with them, be my guest, and welcome to the
fifth dimension !


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Martin

Merged cells have their place in a worksheet that is for presentation
purposes only and will not require any manipulation.

Very few worksheets meet that criterion.

The vast majority of Excel users will expect to be able to copy, paste,
filter, sort and a myriad of other functions that merged cells render near
impossible.

When I become fairly competent in Excel I may have another look at using
merged cells.


Gord



On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:24:52 +1000, "MartinW" wrote:

Welcome to the wonderful world of merged cells which cause no end of
problems and should be banned from existence.

Hi Gord,

There are times that merged cells come in handy.
My organisation has a timeheet that was probably created in Word
then converted to PDF and is available to all parts of the organisation
on the company Intranet as a standard form. The intended use of the
form is to be hand written.

I made an Excel version of the form that automated the input and calculated
times etc. but in order to re-create an EXACT replica of the original form I
needed to use merged cells.

Admittedly, due to the merged cells, it is not entirely user friendly, the
merged
cells can cause the odd minor problem, but it works very well for myself and
anyone else who is fairly competent in Excel.

Regards
Martin

Hi Gord,

I just wanted to make the point that although merged cells should
be treated like poison, they don't need to be "banned from existence".

As for competence, well it's all relative isn't it.
Amongst my work colleagues, I am considered an advanced user, some
have even had the temerity to use terms like expert and guru.

That's all very nice of course, but I know the truth!!!

When compared to the likes of yourself and the many other responders
in these newsgroups, I'm not quite up to beginner status yet.

Such is Life!!
Cheers
Martin





"Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
...
Martin

Merged cells have their place in a worksheet that is for presentation
purposes only and will not require any manipulation.

Very few worksheets meet that criterion.

The vast majority of Excel users will expect to be able to copy, paste,
filter, sort and a myriad of other functions that merged cells render near
impossible.

When I become fairly competent in Excel I may have another look at using
merged cells.


Gord



On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:24:52 +1000, "MartinW" wrote:

Welcome to the wonderful world of merged cells which cause no end of
problems and should be banned from existence.

Hi Gord,

There are times that merged cells come in handy.
My organisation has a timeheet that was probably created in Word
then converted to PDF and is available to all parts of the organisation
on the company Intranet as a standard form. The intended use of the
form is to be hand written.

I made an Excel version of the form that automated the input and
calculated
times etc. but in order to re-create an EXACT replica of the original form
I
needed to use merged cells.

Admittedly, due to the merged cells, it is not entirely user friendly, the
merged
cells can cause the odd minor problem, but it works very well for myself
and
anyone else who is fairly competent in Excel.

Regards
Martin

"Banned from existence" is a little over the top, I agree.

Maybe, like poison, they should come with skull and crossbones label.


Gord

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:41:43 +1000, "MartinW" wrote:

Hi Gord,

I just wanted to make the point that although merged cells should
be treated like poison, they don't need to be "banned from existence".

As for competence, well it's all relative isn't it.
Amongst my work colleagues, I am considered an advanced user, some
have even had the temerity to use terms like expert and guru.

That's all very nice of course, but I know the truth!!!

When compared to the likes of yourself and the many other responders
in these newsgroups, I'm not quite up to beginner status yet.

Such is Life!!
Cheers
Martin





"Gord Dibben" gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote in message
.. .
Martin

Merged cells have their place in a worksheet that is for presentation
purposes only and will not require any manipulation.

Very few worksheets meet that criterion.

The vast majority of Excel users will expect to be able to copy, paste,
filter, sort and a myriad of other functions that merged cells render near
impossible.

When I become fairly competent in Excel I may have another look at using
merged cells.


Gord



On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:24:52 +1000, "MartinW" wrote:

Welcome to the wonderful world of merged cells which cause no end of
problems and should be banned from existence.

Hi Gord,

There are times that merged cells come in handy.
My organisation has a timeheet that was probably created in Word
then converted to PDF and is available to all parts of the organisation
on the company Intranet as a standard form. The intended use of the
form is to be hand written.

I made an Excel version of the form that automated the input and
calculated
times etc. but in order to re-create an EXACT replica of the original form
I
needed to use merged cells.

Admittedly, due to the merged cells, it is not entirely user friendly, the
merged
cells can cause the odd minor problem, but it works very well for myself
and
anyone else who is fairly competent in Excel.

Regards
Martin

In article ,
Gord Dibben gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote:

"Banned from existence" is a little over the top, I agree.

Not at all. Merged cells are the spawn of Satan. Friends don't let
friends merge cells!

Don't give in on this one...! g

I wimped outg

"for presentation only" means just that.


Gord

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:36:06 -0700, JE McGimpsey
wrote:

In article ,
Gord Dibben gorddibbATshawDOTca wrote:

"Banned from existence" is a little over the top, I agree.

Not at all. Merged cells are the spawn of Satan. Friends don't let
friends merge cells!

Don't give in on this one...! g