MS Rant - TabIndexes

At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only tab
between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want the user
to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there, would
be so much easier.

"David C. Holley" David.C.Holley wrote:

At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only tab
between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want the user
to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there, would
be so much easier.

I don't quite understand the problem here. Using the tab key skips
from page to page?

Tony
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From what I can tell, when you're working with multiple pages using the tab
key will tab from control to control and change pages if the next control is
on another page. I want the user to remain on the same page and only move
via a NEXT or PREVIOUS button.

"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote in message
...
"David C. Holley" David.C.Holley wrote:

At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only tab
between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want the
user
to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there,
would
be so much easier.

I don't quite understand the problem here. Using the tab key skips
from page to page?

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:01:08 -0400, "David C. Holley" David.C.Holley
wrote:

I'm with Tony: what exactly do you mean by "pages"?
There may be a solution, but we need to first be on the same page :-)

-Tom.
Microsoft Access MVP


From what I can tell, when you're working with multiple pages using the tab
key will tab from control to control and change pages if the next control is
on another page. I want the user to remain on the same page and only move
via a NEXT or PREVIOUS button.

"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
"David C. Holley" David.C.Holley wrote:

At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only tab
between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want the
user
to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there,
would
be so much easier.

I don't quite understand the problem here. Using the tab key skips
from page to page?

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

I'm building a wizard. By 'pages' I'm referring to the sections of the form
that are separated from each other using page break control.

"Tom van Stiphout" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:01:08 -0400, "David C. Holley" David.C.Holley
wrote:

I'm with Tony: what exactly do you mean by "pages"?
There may be a solution, but we need to first be on the same page :-)

-Tom.
Microsoft Access MVP


From what I can tell, when you're working with multiple pages using the
tab
key will tab from control to control and change pages if the next control
is
on another page. I want the user to remain on the same page and only move
via a NEXT or PREVIOUS button.

"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote in message
. ..
"David C. Holley" David.C.Holley wrote:

At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only
tab
between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want the
user
to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there,
would
be so much easier.

I don't quite understand the problem here. Using the tab key skips
from page to page?

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

"David C. Holley" David.C.Holley wrote:

From what I can tell, when you're working with multiple pages using the tab
key will tab from control to control and change pages if the next control is
on another page. I want the user to remain on the same page and only move
via a NEXT or PREVIOUS button.

As with Tom I'm not sure what you mean by page. Do you mean page on a
tab control? Where there are controls such as text boxes, combo boxes
and subforms on each page.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

On Sun, 23 May 2010 19:23:39 -0400, "David C. Holley" David.C.Holley
wrote:

Oh, THOSE pages :-)
If you want to tab around within one page, consider this trick: the
last control of a Page could have a LostFocus event that sets focus to
the first control of the page.

Personally I would write a wizard using the Tab control: develop
multiple tabs which are the pages, and at the last moment turn off the
display of the tabs.

-Tom.
Microsoft Access MVP



I'm building a wizard. By 'pages' I'm referring to the sections of the form
that are separated from each other using page break control.

"Tom van Stiphout" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:01:08 -0400, "David C. Holley" David.C.Holley
wrote:

I'm with Tony: what exactly do you mean by "pages"?
There may be a solution, but we need to first be on the same page :-)

-Tom.
Microsoft Access MVP


From what I can tell, when you're working with multiple pages using the
tab
key will tab from control to control and change pages if the next control
is
on another page. I want the user to remain on the same page and only move
via a NEXT or PREVIOUS button.

"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote in message
...
"David C. Holley" David.C.Holley wrote:

At what point in time is MS going to alter Forms so that controls only
tab
between controls on the same page? Building a wizard where you want the
user
to be able to TAB, just like the rest of every application out there,
would
be so much easier.

I don't quite understand the problem here. Using the tab key skips
from page to page?

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

"David C. Holley" David.C.Holley wrote:

I'm building a wizard. By 'pages' I'm referring to the sections of the form
that are separated from each other using page break control.

Ahhhh. What I did in VB6 was to put the controls into a frame. When
the form is displayed in user view, rather than design view, I resized
the form programmatically to be just large enough for the frame and
the back next buttons, etc. Then I moved the frame into and out of
view as they want from page to page clicking on the next

You can see how this works by downloading the Auto FE Updater utility,
see my sig below, and either running the wizard or creating a
configuration file and then updating the config file.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

Tom van Stiphout wrote:

Personally I would write a wizard using the Tab control: develop
multiple tabs which are the pages, and at the last moment turn off the
display of the tabs.

Trouble is I don't know if you can turn off the tabs visibility but
leave the controls in the tabs visible. OTOH I never tried it.
smile

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/

"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote in message
...

Trouble is I don't know if you can turn off the tabs visibility but
leave the controls in the tabs visible. OTOH I never tried it.
smile

No. When you hide a tab, all the controls on that tab are no longer visible.
Tou can't set focus to them, but you can use them in calculations, etc.
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