Headers and Footers in legal pleadings

I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the page, and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer or
the header? thanks.

dc

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective of what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
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"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer or
the header? thanks.

dc

Yes, I know it sounds strange, but I think I got this template off the MS
website. Here is what it is:

At the bottom of the page, where you expect to see the footer, there it is:
a dotted line going across the page, labeled footer

And below that, at the very bottom edge of the page, is the header: a dotted
line going across and labeled header. This line is usually at the top of the
page but in this template it is actually below the footer at the bottom. I
can send you the template if you'd like to look at it.

ddc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective of what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer or
the header? thanks.

dc

Yes, please send me the template, as you have definitely piqued my
curiosity!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
Yes, I know it sounds strange, but I think I got this template off the MS
website. Here is what it is:

At the bottom of the page, where you expect to see the footer, there it
is:
a dotted line going across the page, labeled footer

And below that, at the very bottom edge of the page, is the header: a
dotted
line going across and labeled header. This line is usually at the top of
the
page but in this template it is actually below the footer at the bottom. I
can send you the template if you'd like to look at it.

ddc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the
page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the
footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective of
what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the
page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than
the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer
or
the header? thanks.

dc

Suzanne: I went to the word.mvps.org site and thence to "Contact Us" and
sent an e-mail to that address--if that isn't the right place to get it to
you, tell me where else to send it. Thanks.

dc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yes, please send me the template, as you have definitely piqued my
curiosity!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
Yes, I know it sounds strange, but I think I got this template off the MS
website. Here is what it is:

At the bottom of the page, where you expect to see the footer, there it
is:
a dotted line going across the page, labeled footer

And below that, at the very bottom edge of the page, is the header: a
dotted
line going across and labeled header. This line is usually at the top of
the
page but in this template it is actually below the footer at the bottom. I
can send you the template if you'd like to look at it.

ddc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the
page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the
footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective of
what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the
page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than
the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer
or
the header? thanks.

dc

No, you will have sent the document to our Webmaster. Instead send it to me
at the address from which this message was sent. You can see my email
address if you click on my name in the message. Or you can send it to the
Webmaster at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
Suzanne: I went to the word.mvps.org site and thence to "Contact Us" and
sent an e-mail to that address--if that isn't the right place to get it to
you, tell me where else to send it. Thanks.

dc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yes, please send me the template, as you have definitely piqued my
curiosity!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
Yes, I know it sounds strange, but I think I got this template off the
MS
website. Here is what it is:

At the bottom of the page, where you expect to see the footer, there
it
is:
a dotted line going across the page, labeled footer

And below that, at the very bottom edge of the page, is the header: a
dotted
line going across and labeled header. This line is usually at the top
of
the
page but in this template it is actually below the footer at the
bottom. I
can send you the template if you'd like to look at it.

ddc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the
page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying
that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the
footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective
of
what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to
the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running
vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing
that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the
page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather
than
the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the
footer
or
the header? thanks.

dc

Just to report back in case anyone is still following this. In fact the
header did extend to the bottom of the page. The top margin had been set as
an absolute amount (by using a setting of -1.03") and the line numbering
then typed in the header itself rather than in a text box anchored to the
header. This is an old, old dodge that predates text boxes and is, needless
to say, quite confusing to a user today. I recommended the DeeCeeCee
recreate the template along more contemporary lines (including substituting
MacroButton NoMacro fields for the form fields that were being used despite
the fact that the document was not intended to be a protected form).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
Yes, I know it sounds strange, but I think I got this template off the MS
website. Here is what it is:

At the bottom of the page, where you expect to see the footer, there it
is:
a dotted line going across the page, labeled footer

And below that, at the very bottom edge of the page, is the header: a
dotted
line going across and labeled header. This line is usually at the top of
the
page but in this template it is actually below the footer at the bottom. I
can send you the template if you'd like to look at it.

ddc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the
page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the
footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective of
what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the
page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than
the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer
or
the header? thanks.

dc

here is my question . I followed all the rules about page numbering but
i
do not want page numbers in the first section I only want to start page
numberin in the second and third section of my document. when I go to
erase the page numbers useing the header erase function all of my page
numbers disappear. how do I eliminate page numbering in the first
section
and keep it in other parts of the document.



"DeeDeeCee" wrote:

I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the page, and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer or
the header? thanks.

dc

here is my question . I followed all the rules about page numbering but
i
do not want page numbers in the first section I only want to start page
numberin in the second and third section of my document. when I go to
erase the page numbers useing the header erase function all of my page
numbers disappear. how do I eliminate page numbering in the first
section
and keep it in other parts of the document.



"DeeDeeCee" wrote:

Yes, I know it sounds strange, but I think I got this template off the MS
website. Here is what it is:

At the bottom of the page, where you expect to see the footer, there it is:
a dotted line going across the page, labeled footer

And below that, at the very bottom edge of the page, is the header: a dotted
line going across and labeled header. This line is usually at the top of the
page but in this template it is actually below the footer at the bottom. I
can send you the template if you'd like to look at it.

ddc

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective of what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer or
the header? thanks.

dc

here is my question . I followed all the rules about page numbering but
i
do not want page numbers in the first section I only want to start page
numberin in the second and third section of my document. when I go to
erase the page numbers useing the header erase function all of my page
numbers disappear. how do I eliminate page numbering in the first
section
and keep it in other parts of the document.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It doesn't make sense to say that the header is at the bottom of the page.
The header is by definition at the top of the page. Are you saying that
elements usually placed in the header are sometimes placed in the footer?
You can put text in either the header or footer or both irrespective of what
graphic elements (text box, frame, drawing lines) are anchored to the
header.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"DeeDeeCee" wrote in message
...
I'm comparing some legal pleadings (with numbers running vertically on
left
margin for each line, as well as a vertical line). I'm noticing that
sometimes the header and the footer are both at the bottom of the page,
and
sometimes they aren't. Two questions:

How do I make it so that the header is up top--I'm assuming it has
something
to do with the vertical elements being put in the header rather than the
footer or vice-versa?

Apart from the above problem, how do I adjust the height of the footer or
the header? thanks.

dc