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General way they are put together.. never found one that was anything like
reliable.. some of the worst print quality that I have ever seen.. they never do well in comparison tests.. AND.. Lexmark were responsible for the IBM printers.. and as an IBM service engineer, I was expected to fix them.. if you have ever heard the expression 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', well I will add a new one to that.. 'don't fix what keeps breaking'.. I assume that you have a Lexmark printer/work for Lexmark/have asked Santa for a Lexmark (delete as applicable).. Mike "Lee Rich" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall" wrote in message ... "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... "Buy an HP?!" You might as well tell him to buy a Lexmark! And Epson scanners kick HP scanners arse... The Perfection 4870 Photo is the best damned flatbed scanner in existence. I've had mine for six months and I've never had a day's trouble - and the scans - and the flexibility - is unsurpassed. Yes, it wasn't cheap (I think I paid £300) but it's worth every penny! I would agree that Lexmark are possibly the worst, but HP rock.. way better than anything else.. Re. scanners, the Canon 1240U is a smokin general purpose scanner.. best I have used, but software is an important factor in how well a scanner performs.. -- Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling on salads. People get what they deserve.. Mike, I am curious and would like to know what are the objections to the Lexmark line of printers. What are the negatives that would prevent you from buying a Lexmark? Thank you in advance for your help and comments, Lee |
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JoAnn
Don't you just love Canon printers that feed multiple sheets through at one time.. the cute little cartridges that don't last for the time it takes to pee.. messages that inform you that due to the lack of magenta, you're not going to print in black either.. Mike (avid member of the HP Appreciation Society } "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked. Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a Canon. HPs do rock! -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they messy? Merry Christmas Mike |
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Yours popped up a message? Gee - you must have had a fancy one.
[I just got my mom into her first HP. :-) ] -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Mike Hall" wrote in message ... JoAnn Don't you just love Canon printers that feed multiple sheets through at one time.. the cute little cartridges that don't last for the time it takes to pee.. messages that inform you that due to the lack of magenta, you're not going to print in black either.. Mike (avid member of the HP Appreciation Society } "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked. Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a Canon. HPs do rock! -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they messy? Merry Christmas Mike |
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Mike K.,
DavidF is correct about www.alotofthing.com. Back when you purchased the i860, I sent a copy of the refill instructions to you. Did you ever receive them? If you go to the eBay site for alotofthings the prices are a little lower than from his web site (and those prices are pretty low as well). Use this link http://stores.ebay.com/ALOT-OF-THING...playZ2 QQtZkm. The ink is manufactured by Sensient-Formulabs in San Diego, not China. Also see www.formulabs.com. There is quite a bit of information there and it should settle any qualms you may have about refilling. Using a quality ink like Formulabs won't damage the printheads. Refilling the Canon tanks is very easy. I've been refilling Canon ink tanks for several years without any problems. Hop over to comp.periphs.printers and you'll find a world of info on refilling. -- Ron Cohen "DavidF" wrote in message ... Mike, Ron Cohen sent some good instructions and tips about refilling Canons to me some time ago. He suggested http://www.alotofthings.com as his favorite supplier. If you want a copy of his detailed instructions, please post an address, and I'll send them along. DavidF "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they messy? Merry Christmas Mike --- AVG reports Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 |
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Mike H.
I have multiple Canon printers, s820's, i950 and iP4000. These are outstanding printers and I've never had any problems with multiple feeds on any of them. I couldn't say that about my HP 720 that is now collecting dust in the corner. The worst machine I've ever used (for misfeeding) is my Lexmark E312 laser. Nice little printer, but the multiple feeds are horrible. My old HP IIIP was also pretty bad about multiple feeds. As to ink mileage, I print a lot of photos. With my Canon printers I will usually get between 45-50 full sheets (8.5 x 11) before the first low ink warning appears. The other tanks will usually be partially to nearly full. That's a lot of ink mileage for very, very little money considering I refill. Based on what I paid for the bulk ink, my per page ink cost is 1.2¢. Barely more than a penny. I think you may be confusing the very low end Canons which use an integrated printhead similar to HP or Lexmark. Canon printers which use individual ink tanks are great printers. -- Ron Cohen "Mike Hall" wrote in message ... JoAnn Don't you just love Canon printers that feed multiple sheets through at one time.. the cute little cartridges that don't last for the time it takes to pee.. messages that inform you that due to the lack of magenta, you're not going to print in black either.. Mike (avid member of the HP Appreciation Society } "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked. Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a Canon. HPs do rock! -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they messy? Merry Christmas Mike --- AVG reports Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 |
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JoAnn,
Which Canon printer model? The ones I have are super easy to refill and the quality is outstanding. -- Ron Cohen "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked. Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a Canon. HPs do rock! -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they messy? Merry Christmas Mike --- AVG reports Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 |
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Mike H,
How long ago with Big Blue? Did you quit or retire? I retired from them in 98 after taking the bridge they offered starting is 92. I'm disappointed in how they treat the retirees. They turned their back on us and failed to deliver on all the promises made over the years about our benefits. Remember the old saying "How can you tell when your manager is lying to you? Answer: His lips are moving." -- Ron Cohen "Mike Hall" wrote in message ... General way they are put together.. never found one that was anything like reliable.. some of the worst print quality that I have ever seen.. they never do well in comparison tests.. AND.. Lexmark were responsible for the IBM printers.. and as an IBM service engineer, I was expected to fix them.. if you have ever heard the expression 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', well I will add a new one to that.. 'don't fix what keeps breaking'.. I assume that you have a Lexmark printer/work for Lexmark/have asked Santa for a Lexmark (delete as applicable).. Mike "Lee Rich" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall" wrote in message ... "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... "Buy an HP?!" You might as well tell him to buy a Lexmark! And Epson scanners kick HP scanners arse... The Perfection 4870 Photo is the best damned flatbed scanner in existence. I've had mine for six months and I've never had a day's trouble - and the scans - and the flexibility - is unsurpassed. Yes, it wasn't cheap (I think I paid £300) but it's worth every penny! I would agree that Lexmark are possibly the worst, but HP rock.. way better than anything else.. Re. scanners, the Canon 1240U is a smokin general purpose scanner.. best I have used, but software is an important factor in how well a scanner performs.. -- Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling on salads. People get what they deserve.. Mike, I am curious and would like to know what are the objections to the Lexmark line of printers. What are the negatives that would prevent you from buying a Lexmark? Thank you in advance for your help and comments, Lee --- AVG reports Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 |
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No clue any longer. It's been several years since I used it - prior to being
a geek. Funny how our tastes/preferences change after we learn more about what we're doing. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Ron Cohen" wrote in message ... JoAnn, Which Canon printer model? The ones I have are super easy to refill and the quality is outstanding. -- Ron Cohen "JoAnn Paules" wrote in message ... Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked. Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a Canon. HPs do rock! -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they messy? Merry Christmas Mike --- AVG reports Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 |
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Ron,
To be honest, I may have received it but deleted it. At the time, the HP at the office was so easy on ink that I didn't see any reason to take a chance on ruining the printhead or anything else. I've only had this printer about six months and I have spent more on ink than the original cost of the printer. :-( I am happy about the quality and speed, especially since it is a low-end printer. But this thing drinks ink like a camel. It's almost as bad as the one printer I had that used tapes (cannot remember its name) to print. I would go through three of those tapes a week. They were not terribly expensive, something about $5.00 each, but I soon realized I could afford a large format laser printer for what I was spending on them. Unfortunately, it was a Minolta. Cost $1,000, lasted about 30,000 copies, if that many. A real POS. Mike Ron Cohen wrote: Mike K., DavidF is correct about www.alotofthing.com. Back when you purchased the i860, I sent a copy of the refill instructions to you. Did you ever receive them? If you go to the eBay site for alotofthings the prices are a little lower than from his web site (and those prices are pretty low as well). Use this link http://stores.ebay.com/ALOT-OF-THING...playZ2 QQtZkm. The ink is manufactured by Sensient-Formulabs in San Diego, not China. Also see www.formulabs.com. There is quite a bit of information there and it should settle any qualms you may have about refilling. Using a quality ink like Formulabs won't damage the printheads. Refilling the Canon tanks is very easy. I've been refilling Canon ink tanks for several years without any problems. Hop over to comp.periphs.printers and you'll find a world of info on refilling. |
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"Ron Cohen" wrote in message ... Mike H, How long ago with Big Blue? Did you quit or retire? I retired from them in 98 after taking the bridge they offered starting is 92. I'm disappointed in how they treat the retirees. They turned their back on us and failed to deliver on all the promises made over the years about our benefits. Remember the old saying "How can you tell when your manager is lying to you? Answer: His lips are moving." -- Ron Cohen Yo Ron I quit at the end of 2001.. I was sick of the lies, false promises, cover ups, management ineptitude.. it seemed to me that the less somebody knew about anything, the better the chance of promotion.. they didn't want guys who could fix stuff.. they wanted people who would always say yes to every half-assed demand made.. We were asked to fix stuff but not allowed to order the parts at times without written consent of some dummy of a manager.. how the hell can you make sure that customers are not lost through bad service if your hands are tied?.. they had enough money to pay out for a cdn$70000 table for Lou to sit at for half a day, but told me that the budget didn't allow for parts.. they constantly moved departments around, spending untold $$$$, and for what?.. just to move it all back again the way it was because some dumbass hadn't thought it out properly.. and still we couldn't get parts.. The best part is that we were sent in to jobs that obviously weren't going to work out.. Sales people selling companies stuff that just wasn't suitable for the purpose, and if we couldn't do anything with it, they blamed us.. I was threatened with being fired on more than one occasion for going above and beyond to save an account that was going to drop IBM.. only do the absolute minimum, I was told.. nuts to that.. I worked my heart out for that company, putting up with the crap daily and just smiling through it.. my last day there, I walked up past security and one of the dumbass managers asked me for my security badge.. I wanted to tell him so bad where to put it, but refrained.. I chose to rise above it.. Over the time there, I worked with a few good guys, but we all had misgivings about company ethics.. one of them decided he would rather be a scarecrow in a field someplace than continue with what he was doing.. maybe it's just a sign of the times.. And yes, I remember that saying well.. so true, eh Mike |
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