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Old September 10th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Mark Tangard
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Default Error trying to adjust Text Block top margin

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the shapes is
pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting to
fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation without
problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters



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Old September 11th, 2004, 04:48 AM
Mark Nelson [MS]
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Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the Shapesheet?
Does the other way also cause the same problem?

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Mark Nelson
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"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...
On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the shapes is
pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting to
fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation without
problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters





  #3  
Old September 11th, 2004, 04:48 AM
Mark Nelson [MS]
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Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the Shapesheet?
Does the other way also cause the same problem?

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...
On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the shapes is
pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting to
fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation without
problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters





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Old September 11th, 2004, 06:40 AM
Mark Tangard
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I'd been try to set it through the Text dialog. With the Shapesheet it
also fails, but with different error language: "An Error (1) occurred
during the action Set Formula or Name. Unexpected end of file."

Curious....

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:
Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the Shapesheet?
Does the other way also cause the same problem?

-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Mark Tangard"
wrote in message
...

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the shapes is
pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting to
fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation without
problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters




  #5  
Old September 11th, 2004, 06:40 AM
Mark Tangard
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I'd been try to set it through the Text dialog. With the Shapesheet it
also fails, but with different error language: "An Error (1) occurred
during the action Set Formula or Name. Unexpected end of file."

Curious....

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:
Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the Shapesheet?
Does the other way also cause the same problem?

-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Mark Tangard"
wrote in message
...

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the shapes is
pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting to
fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation without
problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters




  #6  
Old September 12th, 2004, 05:56 AM
Mark Nelson [MS]
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Very strange. You might try round-tripping the file through XML to see if
it can clean itself up. Save the document as VDX. Then open the file in
Notepad or another editor. Make some harmless change like adding a space
and deleting it again, then resave the file. Now reopen the file in Visio.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...
I'd been try to set it through the Text dialog. With the Shapesheet it
also fails, but with different error language: "An Error (1) occurred
during the action Set Formula or Name. Unexpected end of file."

Curious....

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:
Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the

Shapesheet?
Does the other way also cause the same problem?

-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Mark Tangard"
wrote in message
...

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the shapes

is
pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting

to
fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation

without
problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters






  #7  
Old September 12th, 2004, 05:56 AM
Mark Nelson [MS]
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Very strange. You might try round-tripping the file through XML to see if
it can clean itself up. Save the document as VDX. Then open the file in
Notepad or another editor. Make some harmless change like adding a space
and deleting it again, then resave the file. Now reopen the file in Visio.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...
I'd been try to set it through the Text dialog. With the Shapesheet it
also fails, but with different error language: "An Error (1) occurred
during the action Set Formula or Name. Unexpected end of file."

Curious....

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:
Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the

Shapesheet?
Does the other way also cause the same problem?

-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Mark Tangard"
wrote in message
...

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the shapes

is
pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting

to
fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation

without
problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters






  #8  
Old September 12th, 2004, 01:55 PM
Mark Tangard
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Mark,

Wow. This worked!! I confess I have absolutely NO CLUE what saving as
XML actually *does*, but it sure banished the evil spirits. Is this
essentially a way to "decompose" a drawing & then reassemble its freshly
aired-out components?

Thanks very much.

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:
Very strange. You might try round-tripping the file through XML to see if
it can clean itself up. Save the document as VDX. Then open the file in
Notepad or another editor. Make some harmless change like adding a space
and deleting it again, then resave the file. Now reopen the file in Visio.

-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...

I'd been try to set it through the Text dialog. With the Shapesheet it
also fails, but with different error language: "An Error (1) occurred
during the action Set Formula or Name. Unexpected end of file."

Curious....

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:


Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the


Shapesheet?

Does the other way also cause the same problem?


-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Mark Tangard"
wrote in message
...

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin

on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's

got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the

shapes

is

pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting


to

fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so

was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation


without

problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters





  #9  
Old September 12th, 2004, 01:55 PM
Mark Tangard
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Mark,

Wow. This worked!! I confess I have absolutely NO CLUE what saving as
XML actually *does*, but it sure banished the evil spirits. Is this
essentially a way to "decompose" a drawing & then reassemble its freshly
aired-out components?

Thanks very much.

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:
Very strange. You might try round-tripping the file through XML to see if
it can clean itself up. Save the document as VDX. Then open the file in
Notepad or another editor. Make some harmless change like adding a space
and deleting it again, then resave the file. Now reopen the file in Visio.

-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...

I'd been try to set it through the Text dialog. With the Shapesheet it
also fails, but with different error language: "An Error (1) occurred
during the action Set Formula or Name. Unexpected end of file."

Curious....

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:


Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the


Shapesheet?

Does the other way also cause the same problem?


-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Mark Tangard"
wrote in message
...

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error 3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin

on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's

got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the

shapes

is

pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space adjusting


to

fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so

was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation


without

problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters





  #10  
Old September 14th, 2004, 07:48 AM
Mark Nelson [MS]
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Yes, it is one method of cleaning out bad bits. Using "untrusted" XML in
Visio causes a total recalc of the shapesheet. This is great for rebuilding
files but load time for the file is slower than binary or trusted XML.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...
Mark,

Wow. This worked!! I confess I have absolutely NO CLUE what saving as
XML actually *does*, but it sure banished the evil spirits. Is this
essentially a way to "decompose" a drawing & then reassemble its freshly
aired-out components?

Thanks very much.

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:
Very strange. You might try round-tripping the file through XML to see

if
it can clean itself up. Save the document as VDX. Then open the file

in
Notepad or another editor. Make some harmless change like adding a

space
and deleting it again, then resave the file. Now reopen the file in

Visio.

-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Mark Tangard" wrote in message
...

I'd been try to set it through the Text dialog. With the Shapesheet

it
also fails, but with different error language: "An Error (1) occurred
during the action Set Formula or Name. Unexpected end of file."

Curious....

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters


Mark Nelson [MS] wrote:


Are you setting the margin through the Text dialog or via the


Shapesheet?

Does the other way also cause the same problem?


-- Mark Nelson Microsoft Corporation This posting is provided "AS IS"
with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Mark Tangard"
wrote in message
...

On a flowchart I have, if I try to change the Top Margin spec for

a
given (or several) Text Block(s), I get a message citing Error

3400,
Action 1642, and suggesting I close & reopen.

Closing/reopening has no effect. I can't change the top margin

on any
of the shapes. There's nothing unusual about the diagram. It's

got 7
shapes (all the same style), 6 connectors (ditto). One of the

shapes

is

pretty full and I've done a fair amount of paragraph-space

adjusting

to

fit all the text. The file was created just recently (and so

was the
template on which it's based). Other files allow this operation


without

problems.

Any ideas how to fix this? Visio 2003, WinXP.

Thanks,

--
Mark Tangard, Microsoft Word MVP
"Life is nothing if you're not obsessed." --John Waters







 




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