Sorting by category doesn't work

I tried what you have suggested. It works the first time
I open a Category, but the first time I sort by something
other than formated the way you described, it reverts
back to sorting the entire list.

The one difference that I notice between Outlook 2003 and
2002, is that if I sort by a column name (File As,
Company, etc) in 2002, the Sort "button" actually changes
to what I have clicked on. It doesn't change to "None",
which is what 2003 does.

Maybe in all of this screwing around with settings, I may
have actually screwed something up. Is there a way to
reset all of the views, or do I have to reset them all
manually?

Mike F

-----Original Message-----
View | Arrange By | Current View | Customize Current
View | Group By. Try
clearing the "Automatically group by arrangement" box,
then choose your
grouping field(s). After that, set up the sorting within
each group in
Customize Current View | Sort.

The way that newsgroups and other online communities
work is that responses
are posted in the groups, so that everyone reading them
can benefit.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
Yes, I am using Outlook 2003. I am not sure what you
mean
when you say, "Make sure you're using grouping set in
the
view dialog, not Arrange By grouping" Could you please
contact me off list? My e-mail address is
. Thank you so much for all of the
help.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
Is this Outlook 2003? Make sure you're using grouping
set in the view
dialog, not Arrange By grouping



"Mike Freeman"
wrote in message
...
OK, I have several different categories (customers,
personal, internal, etc). If I expand one of those
categories, it will be arranged in alphabetical
order
by
last name. But, if I want to arrange that category
by,
let's say, Company Name, and I click on "Company
Name",
it lists my entire list of contacts, not just the
ones
in
that category. In the previous version of Outlook,
it
would only sort the category that I had expanded.
Are
you
following me? Thanks for your help.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
Explain what you mean by "filter by header."

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in
message
...
OK, now that that is straight, can you tell me
how I
can
make XP filter by header like in 2002?


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Once you get the view set up the way you want, you should not try to re-sort
it with the column headings, for the reason you see.

I don't know what you mean by "the Sort 'button.'"

You can remove all custom views and reset all default views for all folders
by starting Outlook once with the /cleanviews switch. Note that all means
all here. You will have no view customizations at all after using this
switch.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
I tried what you have suggested. It works the first time
I open a Category, but the first time I sort by something
other than formated the way you described, it reverts
back to sorting the entire list.

The one difference that I notice between Outlook 2003 and
2002, is that if I sort by a column name (File As,
Company, etc) in 2002, the Sort "button" actually changes
to what I have clicked on. It doesn't change to "None",
which is what 2003 does.

Maybe in all of this screwing around with settings, I may
have actually screwed something up. Is there a way to
reset all of the views, or do I have to reset them all
manually?

Mike F

-----Original Message-----
View | Arrange By | Current View | Customize Current
View | Group By. Try
clearing the "Automatically group by arrangement" box,
then choose your
grouping field(s). After that, set up the sorting within
each group in
Customize Current View | Sort.

The way that newsgroups and other online communities
work is that responses
are posted in the groups, so that everyone reading them
can benefit.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
Yes, I am using Outlook 2003. I am not sure what you
mean
when you say, "Make sure you're using grouping set in
the
view dialog, not Arrange By grouping" Could you please
contact me off list? My e-mail address is
. Thank you so much for all of the
help.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
Is this Outlook 2003? Make sure you're using grouping
set in the view
dialog, not Arrange By grouping



"Mike Freeman"
wrote in message
...
OK, I have several different categories (customers,
personal, internal, etc). If I expand one of those
categories, it will be arranged in alphabetical
order
by
last name. But, if I want to arrange that category
by,
let's say, Company Name, and I click on "Company
Name",
it lists my entire list of contacts, not just the
ones
in
that category. In the previous version of Outlook,
it
would only sort the category that I had expanded.
Are
you
following me? Thanks for your help.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
Explain what you mean by "filter by header."

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in
message
...
OK, now that that is straight, can you tell me
how I
can
make XP filter by header like in 2002?


.



.



.

OK, that is what I wanted to find out. In Outlook 2002, I was able to sort
items within a category, without displaying the entire contents of my
Contact List. I often need to go back and forth between sorts by the "File
As" listing and by the "Company" listing. If Microsoft did indeed remove the
ability to do that, it was a stupid stupid thing to do. Thank you for all of
the help that you provided.

Mike Freeman

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Once you get the view set up the way you want, you should not try to
re-sort
it with the column headings, for the reason you see.

I don't know what you mean by "the Sort 'button.'"

You can remove all custom views and reset all default views for all
folders
by starting Outlook once with the /cleanviews switch. Note that all means
all here. You will have no view customizations at all after using this
switch.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
I tried what you have suggested. It works the first time
I open a Category, but the first time I sort by something
other than formated the way you described, it reverts
back to sorting the entire list.

The one difference that I notice between Outlook 2003 and
2002, is that if I sort by a column name (File As,
Company, etc) in 2002, the Sort "button" actually changes
to what I have clicked on. It doesn't change to "None",
which is what 2003 does.

Maybe in all of this screwing around with settings, I may
have actually screwed something up. Is there a way to
reset all of the views, or do I have to reset them all
manually?

Mike F

-----Original Message-----
View | Arrange By | Current View | Customize Current
View | Group By. Try
clearing the "Automatically group by arrangement" box,
then choose your
grouping field(s). After that, set up the sorting within
each group in
Customize Current View | Sort.

The way that newsgroups and other online communities
work is that responses
are posted in the groups, so that everyone reading them
can benefit.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
Yes, I am using Outlook 2003. I am not sure what you
mean
when you say, "Make sure you're using grouping set in
the
view dialog, not Arrange By grouping" Could you please
contact me off list? My e-mail address is
. Thank you so much for all of the
help.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
Is this Outlook 2003? Make sure you're using grouping
set in the view
dialog, not Arrange By grouping



"Mike Freeman"
wrote in message
...
OK, I have several different categories (customers,
personal, internal, etc). If I expand one of those
categories, it will be arranged in alphabetical
order
by
last name. But, if I want to arrange that category
by,
let's say, Company Name, and I click on "Company
Name",
it lists my entire list of contacts, not just the
ones
in
that category. In the previous version of Outlook,
it
would only sort the category that I had expanded.
Are
you
following me? Thanks for your help.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
Explain what you mean by "filter by header."

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in
message
...
OK, now that that is straight, can you tell me
how I
can
make XP filter by header like in 2002?


.



.



.

I agree that it's very annoying. You can add your vote to the chorus by
sending a suggestion to and .

In the meantime, a partial workaround might be to have two different views
available and either switch between them or have the contacts folder open in
two different windows.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
OK, that is what I wanted to find out. In Outlook 2002, I was able to sort
items within a category, without displaying the entire contents of my
Contact List. I often need to go back and forth between sorts by the "File
As" listing and by the "Company" listing. If Microsoft did indeed remove
the
ability to do that, it was a stupid stupid thing to do. Thank you for all
of
the help that you provided.

Mike Freeman

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Once you get the view set up the way you want, you should not try to
re-sort
it with the column headings, for the reason you see.

I don't know what you mean by "the Sort 'button.'"

You can remove all custom views and reset all default views for all
folders
by starting Outlook once with the /cleanviews switch. Note that all
means
all here. You will have no view customizations at all after using this
switch.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
I tried what you have suggested. It works the first time
I open a Category, but the first time I sort by something
other than formated the way you described, it reverts
back to sorting the entire list.

The one difference that I notice between Outlook 2003 and
2002, is that if I sort by a column name (File As,
Company, etc) in 2002, the Sort "button" actually changes
to what I have clicked on. It doesn't change to "None",
which is what 2003 does.

Maybe in all of this screwing around with settings, I may
have actually screwed something up. Is there a way to
reset all of the views, or do I have to reset them all
manually?

Mike F

-----Original Message-----
View | Arrange By | Current View | Customize Current
View | Group By. Try
clearing the "Automatically group by arrangement" box,
then choose your
grouping field(s). After that, set up the sorting within
each group in
Customize Current View | Sort.

The way that newsgroups and other online communities
work is that responses
are posted in the groups, so that everyone reading them
can benefit.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
Yes, I am using Outlook 2003. I am not sure what you
mean
when you say, "Make sure you're using grouping set in
the
view dialog, not Arrange By grouping" Could you please
contact me off list? My e-mail address is
. Thank you so much for all of the
help.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
Is this Outlook 2003? Make sure you're using grouping
set in the view
dialog, not Arrange By grouping



"Mike Freeman"
wrote in message
...
OK, I have several different categories (customers,
personal, internal, etc). If I expand one of those
categories, it will be arranged in alphabetical
order
by
last name. But, if I want to arrange that category
by,
let's say, Company Name, and I click on "Company
Name",
it lists my entire list of contacts, not just the
ones
in
that category. In the previous version of Outlook,
it
would only sort the category that I had expanded.
Are
you
following me? Thanks for your help.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
Explain what you mean by "filter by header."

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mike Freeman" wrote in
message
...
OK, now that that is straight, can you tell me
how I
can
make XP filter by header like in 2002?


.



.



.

I went to define views in the views drop down list and made a copy of phone list (so as not to muck anything up in the list already set up) then modified it by choosing group by categories. Exit the group by and access the sort by and choose full name (or company - whatever you want to sort alphabetically by). Now my list comes up in categories alphabetically. I hope this helps you.

----- Mike Freeman wrote: -----

OK, that is what I wanted to find out. In Outlook 2002, I was able to sort
items within a category, without displaying the entire contents of my
Contact List. I often need to go back and forth between sorts by the "File
As" listing and by the "Company" listing. If Microsoft did indeed remove the
ability to do that, it was a stupid stupid thing to do. Thank you for all of
the help that you provided.

Mike Freeman

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Once you get the view set up the way you want, you should not try to
re-sort
it with the column headings, for the reason you see.
I don't know what you mean by "the Sort 'button.'"
You can remove all custom views and reset all default views for all
folders
by starting Outlook once with the /cleanviews switch. Note that all means
all here. You will have no view customizations at all after using this
switch.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
...
I tried what you have suggested. It works the first time
I open a Category, but the first time I sort by something
other than formated the way you described, it reverts
back to sorting the entire list.
The one difference that I notice between Outlook 2003 and
2002, is that if I sort by a column name (File As,
Company, etc) in 2002, the Sort "button" actually changes
to what I have clicked on. It doesn't change to "None",
which is what 2003 does.
Maybe in all of this screwing around with settings, I may
have actually screwed something up. Is there a way to
reset all of the views, or do I have to reset them all
manually?
Mike F
-----Original Message-----
View | Arrange By | Current View | Customize Current
View | Group By. Try
clearing the "Automatically group by arrangement" box,
then choose your
grouping field(s). After that, set up the sorting within
each group in
Customize Current View | Sort.
The way that newsgroups and other online communities
work is that responses
are posted in the groups, so that everyone reading them
can benefit.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I am using Outlook 2003. I am not sure what you
mean
when you say, "Make sure you're using grouping set in
the
view dialog, not Arrange By grouping" Could you please
contact me off list? My e-mail address is
. Thank you so much for all of the
help.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
Is this Outlook 2003? Make sure you're using grouping
set in the view
dialog, not Arrange By grouping
"Mike Freeman" wrote in message
.. .
OK, I have several different categories (customers,
personal, internal, etc). If I expand one of those
categories, it will be arranged in alphabetical
order
by
last name. But, if I want to arrange that category
by,
let's say, Company Name, and I click on "Company
Name",
it lists my entire list of contacts, not just the
ones
in
that category. In the previous version of Outlook,
it
would only sort the category that I had expanded.
Are
you
following me? Thanks for your help.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
Explain what you mean by "filter by header."
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
"Mike Freeman" wrote in
message
...
OK, now that that is straight, can you tell me
how I
can
make XP filter by header like in 2002?
.
.
.