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ODBC with Excel in 2003
Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys.
At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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ODBC with Excel in 2003
the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time -
so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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ODBC with Excel in 2003
There are definitely mentions of using ODBC to keep org chart shapes updated
with changes. If it's not done through the wizard then where do I need to look? As the org chart wizard isn't very tidy and doesn't allow pre-formatting as such, I'd have to say this is a nearly useless facility without a refresh of some kind. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time - so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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ODBC with Excel in 2003
Since orgcharts are just another form flowcharts, it's not a stretch for
those with an interest in programming to take the example in the visio sdk and build their own. The orgchart is essentially an addon to visio and as such tends to change from version to version. Visio 2007 (and the rest of the office stuff) is being released later this year and has a lot of new data driven functionality (including I suspect a revised orgchart to play with). al "merlin" wrote in message ... There are definitely mentions of using ODBC to keep org chart shapes updated with changes. If it's not done through the wizard then where do I need to look? As the org chart wizard isn't very tidy and doesn't allow pre-formatting as such, I'd have to say this is a nearly useless facility without a refresh of some kind. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time - so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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ODBC with Excel in 2003
I'm very disappointed. I wish all the help files on ODBC pointed out that
you can't use this function for refreshing an org chart. It would have saves us all a lot of time. I guess the ODBC function is avaiable on the org chart wizard to allow connection to other databases. There doesn't seem to be any point in importing an org chart via ODBCdata - might as well just use the excel file! I would try 2007 but as I can't use it at work it's of no help to me. Unless anyone can tell me there's still a chance that an org chart can be linked to excel for refreshing then I'm sadly going to have to give up on this. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Since orgcharts are just another form flowcharts, it's not a stretch for those with an interest in programming to take the example in the visio sdk and build their own. The orgchart is essentially an addon to visio and as such tends to change from version to version. Visio 2007 (and the rest of the office stuff) is being released later this year and has a lot of new data driven functionality (including I suspect a revised orgchart to play with). al "merlin" wrote in message ... There are definitely mentions of using ODBC to keep org chart shapes updated with changes. If it's not done through the wizard then where do I need to look? As the org chart wizard isn't very tidy and doesn't allow pre-formatting as such, I'd have to say this is a nearly useless facility without a refresh of some kind. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time - so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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It's not an odbc issue, it's the orgchart application..
al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm very disappointed. I wish all the help files on ODBC pointed out that you can't use this function for refreshing an org chart. It would have saves us all a lot of time. I guess the ODBC function is avaiable on the org chart wizard to allow connection to other databases. There doesn't seem to be any point in importing an org chart via ODBCdata - might as well just use the excel file! I would try 2007 but as I can't use it at work it's of no help to me. Unless anyone can tell me there's still a chance that an org chart can be linked to excel for refreshing then I'm sadly going to have to give up on this. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Since orgcharts are just another form flowcharts, it's not a stretch for those with an interest in programming to take the example in the visio sdk and build their own. The orgchart is essentially an addon to visio and as such tends to change from version to version. Visio 2007 (and the rest of the office stuff) is being released later this year and has a lot of new data driven functionality (including I suspect a revised orgchart to play with). al "merlin" wrote in message ... There are definitely mentions of using ODBC to keep org chart shapes updated with changes. If it's not done through the wizard then where do I need to look? As the org chart wizard isn't very tidy and doesn't allow pre-formatting as such, I'd have to say this is a nearly useless facility without a refresh of some kind. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time - so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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So... unless anyone can tell me there's still a chance that an org chart
can be linked to excel for refreshing then I'm sadly going to have to give up on this. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... It's not an odbc issue, it's the orgchart application.. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm very disappointed. I wish all the help files on ODBC pointed out that you can't use this function for refreshing an org chart. It would have saves us all a lot of time. I guess the ODBC function is avaiable on the org chart wizard to allow connection to other databases. There doesn't seem to be any point in importing an org chart via ODBCdata - might as well just use the excel file! I would try 2007 but as I can't use it at work it's of no help to me. Unless anyone can tell me there's still a chance that an org chart can be linked to excel for refreshing then I'm sadly going to have to give up on this. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Since orgcharts are just another form flowcharts, it's not a stretch for those with an interest in programming to take the example in the visio sdk and build their own. The orgchart is essentially an addon to visio and as such tends to change from version to version. Visio 2007 (and the rest of the office stuff) is being released later this year and has a lot of new data driven functionality (including I suspect a revised orgchart to play with). al "merlin" wrote in message ... There are definitely mentions of using ODBC to keep org chart shapes updated with changes. If it's not done through the wizard then where do I need to look? As the org chart wizard isn't very tidy and doesn't allow pre-formatting as such, I'd have to say this is a nearly useless facility without a refresh of some kind. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time - so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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Merlin & Al
I posted the same question two minutes before I saw this thread - my frustration equals yours! I also have not been able to establish out whether 2007 would be an improved version..... OrgPlus6 might be the way to go - I've seen it in action and was impressed by the way it handled refreshing. It features a photo manager, conditional formatting, legends, subcharts, levels etc. One can download an evaluation version but ....... THE REFRESH DOESN'T WORK - application just hangs! Their technical team is investigating ...... Every day a coconut - or are we just to optimistic about org charts in general? -- Marianne "merlin" wrote: So... unless anyone can tell me there's still a chance that an org chart can be linked to excel for refreshing then I'm sadly going to have to give up on this. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... It's not an odbc issue, it's the orgchart application.. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm very disappointed. I wish all the help files on ODBC pointed out that you can't use this function for refreshing an org chart. It would have saves us all a lot of time. I guess the ODBC function is avaiable on the org chart wizard to allow connection to other databases. There doesn't seem to be any point in importing an org chart via ODBCdata - might as well just use the excel file! I would try 2007 but as I can't use it at work it's of no help to me. Unless anyone can tell me there's still a chance that an org chart can be linked to excel for refreshing then I'm sadly going to have to give up on this. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Since orgcharts are just another form flowcharts, it's not a stretch for those with an interest in programming to take the example in the visio sdk and build their own. The orgchart is essentially an addon to visio and as such tends to change from version to version. Visio 2007 (and the rest of the office stuff) is being released later this year and has a lot of new data driven functionality (including I suspect a revised orgchart to play with). al "merlin" wrote in message ... There are definitely mentions of using ODBC to keep org chart shapes updated with changes. If it's not done through the wizard then where do I need to look? As the org chart wizard isn't very tidy and doesn't allow pre-formatting as such, I'd have to say this is a nearly useless facility without a refresh of some kind. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time - so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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As a thought you might want to consider XML and schemas. Should be able to
do a nice updatable org chart using XML tags. -- Manticorr "Al Edlund" wrote: Since orgcharts are just another form flowcharts, it's not a stretch for those with an interest in programming to take the example in the visio sdk and build their own. The orgchart is essentially an addon to visio and as such tends to change from version to version. Visio 2007 (and the rest of the office stuff) is being released later this year and has a lot of new data driven functionality (including I suspect a revised orgchart to play with). al "merlin" wrote in message ... There are definitely mentions of using ODBC to keep org chart shapes updated with changes. If it's not done through the wizard then where do I need to look? As the org chart wizard isn't very tidy and doesn't allow pre-formatting as such, I'd have to say this is a nearly useless facility without a refresh of some kind. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... the org chart wizard does not have a refresh, it's starts new every time - so any customization gets lost.... al "merlin" wrote in message ... Thanks for that - it should help my IT guys. At home I've just managed to import from excel via odbc and create a visio drawing (not an org chart) by following the MS knowledge base article. One of the things I was doing wrong was not to define a table of data in my excel sheets.I've also been able to update it but I had to go back through the wizard because I couldn't find a refresh option that worked. Now I need to achieve the same with an org chart, however, the way the data is linked to the chart seems to be different and whereas there are various refresh options in some drawing types, I can't find any for org chart. You've been very helpful up to now - I hope you still have the patience to see this through with me! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Try this for a start definition http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bcoverview.asp odbc (open database connectivity) are programming interfaces to allow access to different data sources. They are a form of 'driver' and come in different version depending on the vendors that supply them for their products (ms generic, excel, access, oracle, db2, etc.). for other than ms products support odbc drivers often come with the product.. ms usually ships some basic ones with the operating systems and office products. You can also check ms downloads for updates. when network sharing data the two primary security groups are the networking group (firewalling of application required flows) and data center (user rights on servers). For this you will have to check in your own organization "merlin" wrote in message ... OK. I'm crawling closer to cracking this. I think I understand now that ODBC is a common interface that I have to set up between two programs - in this case Visio and Excel. The actual process of setting it up is eluding me. 1) is ODBC an actual file or is it something you do to the excel and/or visio file? 2) if it's a file then where does it have to go. Can I choose or is there a special location for it? 3) When I crack this I'll be doing it at work (practising on my laptop at home at the mo) so can this file be on a network drive or does it have to be local to my pc on the hard drive (I try to avaiod that). My choice of network drives are a 'global' shared drive and a 'home' personal drive. 4) will I need administrator rights to achieve this? Sorry for the volume of questions. This has turned out to be more complex than expected but I not going to give up on it! "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... two things. a.) what you saw with layout using the orgchart wizard is normal b.) consider changing the name of excel file in your odbc setup to point to the file that you just created and see if that file works. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK I tried that. It worked fine exporting and importing (except the subordinate shapes imported and displayed in a different order, how annoying is that). The excel file looks similar to mine. This isn't a great surprise because I haven't had trouble importing data from an excel file, it's the ODBC compliant import function that's causing an error. "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... Consider trying this. Create an orgchart with visio and then export it as excel. Compare what Visio saves to what you are trying to give it.... Then see if Visio can import the file that you just saved. al "merlin" wrote in message ... OK - I'm a bit closer. The encryption error was indeed the file protection (could have taken forever to find that out). I'm now getting the error 'There are no tables or views in the data source'. I created a test excel sheet with a list of data on sheet 1 with a heading at the top of each column in the top row. I saved that and closed it. Then I went in to Visio (it was already open and on a blank sheet) Org ChartImport Org Chart DataInfo That's already storedODBC compliant data source browse to my testfile and select. Then I get the error. Help! "Bill Morein [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Is your Excel file password protected? The ODBC drivers do not support encrypted files. You can also try importing the Excel data in Excel using ODBC. Kind of a strange use, but it works and you don't need to mess around with Access. -- Bill Morein http://blogs.msdn.com/wmorein Visio Microsoft Corporation "merlin" wrote in message ... Although I'm quite proficient with excel, I've never had to use Access so I would be well out of my depth there. Are there any common set-up mistakes I might look at? "Al Edlund" wrote in message ... when playing with odbc, setup is often one of the first missteps. I like to use Access to test my odbc setups by having it import using the odbc pointer (not the excel import). When it get's the tables correct I can then move on. al "merlin" wrote in message ... I'm trying to link an org chart's shapes with an excel spreadsheet using the ODBC function. I think I've followed all the steps in the Wizard and the help pages but I just get an error 'can't decrypt data' (or something like that). Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Is there maybe something else to set up or something else I should have installed? |
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