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Old September 14th, 2005, 05:41 AM
Fred Boer
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Don't talk back to ME, young man! Double detention!

Fred


"Jeff Conrad" wrote in message
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"Fred Boer" wrote in message:
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Conrad, Jeff Absent


Detention for Jeff for rowdy behavior


Fred, how can I have had rowdy behavior if I was not in class??

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Old September 14th, 2005, 05:44 AM
Fred Boer
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Dear Mr. Johns:

To this point I haven't come close to creating the form I had hoped to make.
The lesson name is insignificant, and the date the lesson is presented is
the distinguishing factor. I'm hoping for an extremely simple form, without
any need for filtering - if you check back in the thread, you can see what
I'm looking for. Every lesson is a new form, with room for notes and
attendance.

I ain't close yet, but I'm still tryin'!

Thanks for your help!

Fred Boer


"Vincent Johns" wrote in message
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Fred Boer wrote:

Hi Lynn:

Thanks for helping! I can create a nice form with a tab control. The

first
tab control page contains a subform which displays the lesson notes. No
problem. The second tab control page contains a subform which displays

the
students registered in each class. Again, no problem. The problem comes

with
tracking the attendance. I want a list of students for each lesson
presented, with a field to mark their attendance. This is where I am
stalled. I can't seem to pull together the class name, the specific

class
daily lesson, the list of students for that specific class daily lesson,

and
the attendance field for each student.

Is it possible that I need a sub-subform, i.e.
ClassLessonNotesSubformAttendanceSubsubform? Because Attendance is

linked
to the lesson information, not the class information?

Not sure if that will help!

Cheers!
Fred


I can see why you might want a sub-sub-subform, if on bringing up the
page you select the class, then the date, then the lesson, etc.

But you might do just as well (maybe it would be easier for the user) to
set up controls on your Form to let the user select those properties,
then filter the attendance records accordingly.

Does the lesson name (e.g., "The development of ice cream through the
ages") characterize the session? Or would it be easier to identify it
by time of day (which would fit in nicely with the date field)? If
date, time, and class name would be enough to identify the class
meeting, you might filter the students' names on those values and
display (in the innermost subform) the name field and attendance-status
field.

-- Vincent Johns
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"Lynn Trapp" wrote in message
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Fred,
The table structure looks fine to me. I don't think I understand exactly
where you are experiencing the problem. Did you use a tab control on

your
main form?

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"Fred Boer" wrote in message
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Hello!

Well, Lynn, I'm still struggling without success. This seems really

hard
to me, which, as I've learned from bitter experience, usually means I'm
doing something fundamentally wrong. Could I be structuring the tables
wrong? Would you (or anyone else who cares to!) be willing to walk
through this with me?

Restating the situation (for those late to this party...)

I want to create a database to track lessons taught in my classes. This
database should also be able to track student registration and

attendance
in classes. I want to create a form/report which will show me a list of
students in the class, allow me to mark attendance and provide me with
fields to display the lesson, readings, notes, etc.

Tables:

tblClasses: ClassID,Classname, etc.
tblStudents: StudentID, StudentLastName, etc.
tblStudentClasses: StudentClassesID,StudentID,ClassID
tblDayClasses: DayClassesID, ClassID, ClassLessonDate,

ClassLessonTopic;
ClassLessonReadings, ClassLessonNotes, etc. (There would a new record
here for every lesson taught - a daily record of the lesson of the day)
tblAttendance: AttendanceID; studentclassesID; AttendanceCode;
AttendanceDate

I can't seem to find a way to link these tables together to generate

the
form/report I want.

I know we shouldn't design from reports, but, if it helps here is how I
envision the report/form. There would be a form/report so that the
information below would be available for every lesson taught in each
class:

_____________

Monday, Septermber 12, 2005


Class Name: BTA301-01

Students: Attendance:

Boer, Fred Present
Conrad, Jeff Absent
Goldgar, Dirk Present
Trapp, Lynn Present

LESSON:

The development of ice cream through the ages.

READING:

Textbooks: Pages 12-15

ASSIGNMENT:

Write an essay on the benefits of frozen treats in a balanced diet.

NOTES:

Detention for Jeff for rowdy behaviour
_______________________________________________ _______________







 




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