Unstable fonts

Dear Mary,
As I wrote in the previous thread, I have all latest both OS and Office
service packs. It is the same on different computers, different both OS and
Office languages and different OS versions.
And it is always and ONLY Publisher, so I still think this is not windows
issue.

Thanks for trying to help though, it is big problem for me.
Jan.


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
If you are having problems with your fonts generally, then it is a Windows
issure, not a Publisher problem. Use the PowerToy, see if it helps. Do you
have the Windows service packs?

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
I don't want to be annoying, but why all of you are thinking it is because
of baddish fonts? If admit and ask what the font must have - nobody
answers. If I create my own fonts professionally, what should I do to make
them work not only in Word but also in Publisher?
Don't forget we are talking about fonts like Georgia and so on as well.
Jan


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles
that it works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the
time. Maybe it works when you don't use the characters which are
missing/wrong mapped - maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not
alone with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

Do a detect and repair in Publisher found under Help. Windows controls your font
folder, not Publisher. The Georgia font is installed with Windows, as well as
many other fonts. You will not be able to repair your font issue through
Publisher.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.aspx


--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Dear Mary,
As I wrote in the previous thread, I have all latest both OS and Office
service packs. It is the same on different computers, different both OS and
Office languages and different OS versions.
And it is always and ONLY Publisher, so I still think this is not windows
issue.

Thanks for trying to help though, it is big problem for me.
Jan.


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
If you are having problems with your fonts generally, then it is a Windows
issure, not a Publisher problem. Use the PowerToy, see if it helps. Do you
have the Windows service packs?

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
I don't want to be annoying, but why all of you are thinking it is because of
baddish fonts? If admit and ask what the font must have - nobody answers. If
I create my own fonts professionally, what should I do to make them work not
only in Word but also in Publisher?
Don't forget we are talking about fonts like Georgia and so on as well.
Jan


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles that
it works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time. Maybe
it works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped - maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use them.
What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those that
I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them at
all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to change
part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time. Maybe it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the way they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

Surprisely..... I do believe the problem is in the fonts, in theirs
mappings, or some technical stuff in it - remember the characters can be
insereted through insert symbol command.
Although Publisher should work as well as Word with them, I am able to admit
that it has - becuse of its purpose and power - handle them the another way
and that way forgets to put up with some of our fonts data.
I would really welcome to hear from some guy who made this stuff a deeply
technical information how to make the font Publisher-compatible. Or somebody
who knows where could I ask.

I absolutely have no time to find repro or browse my font library and find
out which font is refused completely even when using basic latin characters,
however I did find one which is probably not mapped correctly. It behaves
very well in contrast to some others.

I included screen shot in Word and in Publisher, typed by keyboard. The
TrueType font can be downloaded at
http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/fonts/pc/PORCELAI.ZIP. Note that when you
insert in the Publisher the s with caron using Insert symbol, it works.

1) Why has the Word no problems with the scaron glyph and the Publisher has?

2) What can I do to make this font work?

Please do not write that this font is downloaded from the internet for free
so it hasn't some chars or is shoddy. This is maybe true, maybe isn't. I
would like to know, what is wrong inside the font file, and how to correct
it in order to be able to make my own, Publisher-compatible fonts.

Thanks.
Jan.

PS: I'm sorry Vanilla for taking your thread, but the problem you described
is exactly the same I have too and I believe it can be solved answering
these questions.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
news
Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles
that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time. Maybe
it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not
alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

I downloaded and installed your font. I understand what you are saying, the
glyphs do work in Word. If you open the character map you will find the caron
glyph is not included in this font. However if you type alt+138 the capital S
with the caron will appear. 0+154 will bring up the small s.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Surprisely..... I do believe the problem is in the fonts, in theirs
mappings, or some technical stuff in it - remember the characters can be
insereted through insert symbol command.
Although Publisher should work as well as Word with them, I am able to admit
that it has - becuse of its purpose and power - handle them the another way
and that way forgets to put up with some of our fonts data.
I would really welcome to hear from some guy who made this stuff a deeply
technical information how to make the font Publisher-compatible. Or somebody
who knows where could I ask.

I absolutely have no time to find repro or browse my font library and find
out which font is refused completely even when using basic latin characters,
however I did find one which is probably not mapped correctly. It behaves
very well in contrast to some others.

I included screen shot in Word and in Publisher, typed by keyboard. The
TrueType font can be downloaded at
http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/fonts/pc/PORCELAI.ZIP. Note that when you
insert in the Publisher the s with caron using Insert symbol, it works.

1) Why has the Word no problems with the scaron glyph and the Publisher has?

2) What can I do to make this font work?

Please do not write that this font is downloaded from the internet for free
so it hasn't some chars or is shoddy. This is maybe true, maybe isn't. I
would like to know, what is wrong inside the font file, and how to correct
it in order to be able to make my own, Publisher-compatible fonts.

Thanks.
Jan.

PS: I'm sorry Vanilla for taking your thread, but the problem you described
is exactly the same I have too and I believe it can be solved answering these
questions.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
news
Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles
that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time. Maybe
it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not
alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

Should read scaron... Darn spell check.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Surprisely..... I do believe the problem is in the fonts, in theirs
mappings, or some technical stuff in it - remember the characters can be
insereted through insert symbol command.
Although Publisher should work as well as Word with them, I am able to admit
that it has - becuse of its purpose and power - handle them the another way
and that way forgets to put up with some of our fonts data.
I would really welcome to hear from some guy who made this stuff a deeply
technical information how to make the font Publisher-compatible. Or somebody
who knows where could I ask.

I absolutely have no time to find repro or browse my font library and find
out which font is refused completely even when using basic latin characters,
however I did find one which is probably not mapped correctly. It behaves
very well in contrast to some others.

I included screen shot in Word and in Publisher, typed by keyboard. The
TrueType font can be downloaded at
http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/fonts/pc/PORCELAI.ZIP. Note that when you
insert in the Publisher the s with caron using Insert symbol, it works.

1) Why has the Word no problems with the scaron glyph and the Publisher has?

2) What can I do to make this font work?

Please do not write that this font is downloaded from the internet for free
so it hasn't some chars or is shoddy. This is maybe true, maybe isn't. I
would like to know, what is wrong inside the font file, and how to correct
it in order to be able to make my own, Publisher-compatible fonts.

Thanks.
Jan.

PS: I'm sorry Vanilla for taking your thread, but the problem you described
is exactly the same I have too and I believe it can be solved answering these
questions.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
news
Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles
that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time. Maybe
it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not
alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

Hi Mary, thank you for looking into that, sorry for not being very friendly
all the time.
First of all, do you know why it works in Word and other applications I've
tried and it doesn't in Publisher?
Secondly, where did you find the (s)caron is not defined? I have opened the
font (in Font Creator) and found scaron, Scaron and caron glyphs. If I open
the properties of the scaron glyph, I can find this:

PostScript name: scaron
Mappings:
-Macintosh roman [Byte encoding table] to $009A (latin small letter o with
diaeresis]
-Microsoft Unicode BMP only [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161
(latin small letter s with caron)
-Unicode 1.0 semantics [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161 (latin
small letter s with caron)

Can you see what is missing?
Or what else need to be specified?

Thank you again,
Jan.


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
I downloaded and installed your font. I understand what you are saying, the
glyphs do work in Word. If you open the character map you will find the
caron glyph is not included in this font. However if you type alt+138 the
capital S with the caron will appear. 0+154 will bring up the small s.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Surprisely..... I do believe the problem is in the fonts, in theirs
mappings, or some technical stuff in it - remember the characters can be
insereted through insert symbol command.
Although Publisher should work as well as Word with them, I am able to
admit
that it has - becuse of its purpose and power - handle them the another
way
and that way forgets to put up with some of our fonts data.
I would really welcome to hear from some guy who made this stuff a deeply
technical information how to make the font Publisher-compatible. Or
somebody
who knows where could I ask.

I absolutely have no time to find repro or browse my font library and
find
out which font is refused completely even when using basic latin
characters,
however I did find one which is probably not mapped correctly. It behaves
very well in contrast to some others.

I included screen shot in Word and in Publisher, typed by keyboard. The
TrueType font can be downloaded at
http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/fonts/pc/PORCELAI.ZIP. Note that when
you insert in the Publisher the s with caron using Insert symbol, it
works.

1) Why has the Word no problems with the scaron glyph and the Publisher
has?

2) What can I do to make this font work?

Please do not write that this font is downloaded from the internet for
free
so it hasn't some chars or is shoddy. This is maybe true, maybe isn't. I
would like to know, what is wrong inside the font file, and how to
correct
it in order to be able to make my own, Publisher-compatible fonts.

Thanks.
Jan.

PS: I'm sorry Vanilla for taking your thread, but the problem you
described
is exactly the same I have too and I believe it can be solved answering
these questions.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
news
Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I
downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you
are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles
that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time.
Maybe
it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not
alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free.
They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all
using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes
me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the
way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to
the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

I installed the .ttf version, so my results were based on that.

I then installed the postscript font and the (s)caron symbols are present. They
will insert from Publisher's symbol menu and when typing the alt+number. So the
font is stable and works the way it should. (The Type1 version had the (s)caron
capital T missing). Why Publisher and Word differs in the way they work I
suppose it has something to do with coding. Word is primarily a document
application and does have the capability of opening WordPerfect documents. I
understand WordPerfect uses Type1 fonts more so than Word.

How many folks need these symbols for page layout?


--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Mary, thank you for looking into that, sorry for not being very friendly
all the time.
First of all, do you know why it works in Word and other applications I've
tried and it doesn't in Publisher?
Secondly, where did you find the (s)caron is not defined? I have opened the
font (in Font Creator) and found scaron, Scaron and caron glyphs. If I open
the properties of the scaron glyph, I can find this:

PostScript name: scaron
Mappings:
-Macintosh roman [Byte encoding table] to $009A (latin small letter o with
diaeresis]
-Microsoft Unicode BMP only [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161 (latin
small letter s with caron)
-Unicode 1.0 semantics [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161 (latin small
letter s with caron)

Can you see what is missing?
Or what else need to be specified?

Thank you again,
Jan.


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
I downloaded and installed your font. I understand what you are saying, the
glyphs do work in Word. If you open the character map you will find the caron
glyph is not included in this font. However if you type alt+138 the capital S
with the caron will appear. 0+154 will bring up the small s.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Surprisely..... I do believe the problem is in the fonts, in theirs
mappings, or some technical stuff in it - remember the characters can be
insereted through insert symbol command.
Although Publisher should work as well as Word with them, I am able to admit
that it has - becuse of its purpose and power - handle them the another way
and that way forgets to put up with some of our fonts data.
I would really welcome to hear from some guy who made this stuff a deeply
technical information how to make the font Publisher-compatible. Or somebody
who knows where could I ask.

I absolutely have no time to find repro or browse my font library and find
out which font is refused completely even when using basic latin characters,
however I did find one which is probably not mapped correctly. It behaves
very well in contrast to some others.

I included screen shot in Word and in Publisher, typed by keyboard. The
TrueType font can be downloaded at
http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/fonts/pc/PORCELAI.ZIP. Note that when you
insert in the Publisher the s with caron using Insert symbol, it works.

1) Why has the Word no problems with the scaron glyph and the Publisher has?

2) What can I do to make this font work?

Please do not write that this font is downloaded from the internet for free
so it hasn't some chars or is shoddy. This is maybe true, maybe isn't. I
would like to know, what is wrong inside the font file, and how to correct
it in order to be able to make my own, Publisher-compatible fonts.

Thanks.
Jan.

PS: I'm sorry Vanilla for taking your thread, but the problem you described
is exactly the same I have too and I believe it can be solved answering
these questions.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
news Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles
that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time. Maybe
it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not
alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,

I also looked at ttf version, I've never worked with the postscript one nor
I know whether I could it open at all.. So what are your steps from which
I can see the scaron is missing?

If your symbols means letters with caron and so on, then these are quite
common in other languages...

Well still don't know what to do in the ttf to make it work... because in
other fonts, like Arial.. it of course works.

Jan


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...

I installed the .ttf version, so my results were based on that.

I then installed the postscript font and the (s)caron symbols are present.
They will insert from Publisher's symbol menu and when typing the
alt+number. So the font is stable and works the way it should. (The Type1
version had the (s)caron capital T missing). Why Publisher and Word
differs in the way they work I suppose it has something to do with coding.
Word is primarily a document application and does have the capability of
opening WordPerfect documents. I understand WordPerfect uses Type1 fonts
more so than Word.

How many folks need these symbols for page layout?


--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Mary, thank you for looking into that, sorry for not being very
friendly all the time.
First of all, do you know why it works in Word and other applications
I've tried and it doesn't in Publisher?
Secondly, where did you find the (s)caron is not defined? I have opened
the font (in Font Creator) and found scaron, Scaron and caron glyphs. If
I open the properties of the scaron glyph, I can find this:

PostScript name: scaron
Mappings:
-Macintosh roman [Byte encoding table] to $009A (latin small letter o
with diaeresis]
-Microsoft Unicode BMP only [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161
(latin small letter s with caron)
-Unicode 1.0 semantics [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161 (latin
small letter s with caron)

Can you see what is missing?
Or what else need to be specified?

Thank you again,
Jan.


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
I downloaded and installed your font. I understand what you are saying,
the glyphs do work in Word. If you open the character map you will find
the caron glyph is not included in this font. However if you type alt+138
the capital S with the caron will appear. 0+154 will bring up the small
s.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Surprisely..... I do believe the problem is in the fonts, in theirs
mappings, or some technical stuff in it - remember the characters can
be
insereted through insert symbol command.
Although Publisher should work as well as Word with them, I am able to
admit
that it has - becuse of its purpose and power - handle them the another
way
and that way forgets to put up with some of our fonts data.
I would really welcome to hear from some guy who made this stuff a
deeply
technical information how to make the font Publisher-compatible. Or
somebody
who knows where could I ask.

I absolutely have no time to find repro or browse my font library and
find
out which font is refused completely even when using basic latin
characters,
however I did find one which is probably not mapped correctly. It
behaves
very well in contrast to some others.

I included screen shot in Word and in Publisher, typed by keyboard. The
TrueType font can be downloaded at
http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/fonts/pc/PORCELAI.ZIP. Note that when
you insert in the Publisher the s with caron using Insert symbol, it
works.

1) Why has the Word no problems with the scaron glyph and the Publisher
has?

2) What can I do to make this font work?

Please do not write that this font is downloaded from the internet for
free
so it hasn't some chars or is shoddy. This is maybe true, maybe isn't.
I
would like to know, what is wrong inside the font file, and how to
correct
it in order to be able to make my own, Publisher-compatible fonts.

Thanks.
Jan.

PS: I'm sorry Vanilla for taking your thread, but the problem you
described
is exactly the same I have too and I believe it can be solved answering
these questions.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
news Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I
downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you
are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have
troubles
that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time.
Maybe
it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm
not
alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free.
They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all
using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work'
for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes
me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the
way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include
the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly
those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use
them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to
the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP
2003,

I simply inserted through the alt+number. Have you tried the alt+0138 for the
capital s and alt+0154 for the small s?
I took off the Type1 font rebooted and again installed the .ttf. The alt numbers
are the same as with any other font that have these symbols.
If you open the character map from accessories and hover over the letters, you
can see what and what isn't included in this font.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
I also looked at ttf version, I've never worked with the postscript one nor I
know whether I could it open at all.. So what are your steps from which I
can see the scaron is missing?

If your symbols means letters with caron and so on, then these are quite
common in other languages...

Well still don't know what to do in the ttf to make it work... because in
other fonts, like Arial.. it of course works.

Jan


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...

I installed the .ttf version, so my results were based on that.

I then installed the postscript font and the (s)caron symbols are present.
They will insert from Publisher's symbol menu and when typing the alt+number.
So the font is stable and works the way it should. (The Type1 version had the
(s)caron capital T missing). Why Publisher and Word differs in the way they
work I suppose it has something to do with coding. Word is primarily a
document application and does have the capability of opening WordPerfect
documents. I understand WordPerfect uses Type1 fonts more so than Word.

How many folks need these symbols for page layout?


--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Mary, thank you for looking into that, sorry for not being very friendly
all the time.
First of all, do you know why it works in Word and other applications I've
tried and it doesn't in Publisher?
Secondly, where did you find the (s)caron is not defined? I have opened the
font (in Font Creator) and found scaron, Scaron and caron glyphs. If I open
the properties of the scaron glyph, I can find this:

PostScript name: scaron
Mappings:
-Macintosh roman [Byte encoding table] to $009A (latin small letter o with
diaeresis]
-Microsoft Unicode BMP only [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161
(latin small letter s with caron)
-Unicode 1.0 semantics [Segment mapping to delta values] to $0161 (latin
small letter s with caron)

Can you see what is missing?
Or what else need to be specified?

Thank you again,
Jan.


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
I downloaded and installed your font. I understand what you are saying, the
glyphs do work in Word. If you open the character map you will find the
caron glyph is not included in this font. However if you type alt+138 the
capital S with the caron will appear. 0+154 will bring up the small s.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Surprisely..... I do believe the problem is in the fonts, in theirs
mappings, or some technical stuff in it - remember the characters can be
insereted through insert symbol command.
Although Publisher should work as well as Word with them, I am able to
admit
that it has - becuse of its purpose and power - handle them the another
way
and that way forgets to put up with some of our fonts data.
I would really welcome to hear from some guy who made this stuff a deeply
technical information how to make the font Publisher-compatible. Or
somebody
who knows where could I ask.

I absolutely have no time to find repro or browse my font library and find
out which font is refused completely even when using basic latin
characters,
however I did find one which is probably not mapped correctly. It behaves
very well in contrast to some others.

I included screen shot in Word and in Publisher, typed by keyboard. The
TrueType font can be downloaded at
http://www.misprintedtype.com/v3/fonts/pc/PORCELAI.ZIP. Note that when you
insert in the Publisher the s with caron using Insert symbol, it works.

1) Why has the Word no problems with the scaron glyph and the Publisher
has?

2) What can I do to make this font work?

Please do not write that this font is downloaded from the internet for
free
so it hasn't some chars or is shoddy. This is maybe true, maybe isn't. I
would like to know, what is wrong inside the font file, and how to correct
it in order to be able to make my own, Publisher-compatible fonts.

Thanks.
Jan.

PS: I'm sorry Vanilla for taking your thread, but the problem you
described
is exactly the same I have too and I believe it can be solved answering
these questions.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
news Thanks Mary,
I did try font repair; but it does not seem to do anything. I downloaded
the program twice.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

TweakUI has a font folder repair utility that may help.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx

I know fonts can be pricey, but they are well worth the price if you are
concerned about the integrity of your publications.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Vanilla.
Yes I think this is Publisher-only problem, but I don't have troubles
that it
works some day and some no... it just don't work me all the time.
Maybe
it
works when you don't use the characters which are missing/wrong
mapped -
maybe.

I'm afraid I can't help you but it's quite fine finding that I'm not
alone
with such problem.


"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
Hi JoAn & Jan
Thanks for responding to my thread.

Those fonts--I am talking about--are freeware, completely free. They
worked
previously and they might work again next time when I want to use
them. What
makes it frustrating is that one day there is no problem at all using
them,
but maybe the next day none of those fonts are 'willing to work' for
you.
You just don't know what's going to happen expect.
Plus there are no problems at all with Word documents; which makes me
think
that there is something about Publisher which makes them 'act' the
way
they
do.

Some of the fonts are came fron TypeOasis.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

There are some fonts that you can download that do not include the
whole
alphabet unless you pay for it.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Vanillla" wrote in message
...
My fonts are become unstable in Publisher. I believe manly those
that I
downloaded from the internet. Sometimes I'm not able to use them
at all
even
though, they are still appearing installed. Or I just able to
change part
of
the text and if I add more to it the whole text changes back to
the
previous
font.
In Word I do not have any problems with my downloaded fonts.

Any idea what's happening and what could be the solution?

I appreciate your help.

--
Vanillla
Using: MW 2003, Excell 2003, PowerPoint, Publisher 2003, FP 2003,