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Old October 1st, 2009, 08:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.macros,microsoft.public.access.modulesdaovba
Dirk Goldgar
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"Owl" wrote in message
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I understand that a person who asks a question is an OP and that the
highest
position here is an MVP, but what do both of those stand for (also MCP),
please? Presumably, the M stands for Microsoft, perhaps the P in MCP for
Professional?



I wouldn't think of them as ranks or positions. OP stands for "Original
Poster" (the one who made the first post in the discussion thread. MVP
stands for "Most Valuable Professional", an award given annually by
Microsoft to people who consistently provide high-quality, free support to
users of various MS products -- mostly online. MCP stands for "Microsoft
Certified Professional", a technical certification that can only be received
by taking a test. There are other, similar certifications. An MVP or MCP
can be an OP, naturally; even though the MVPs may spend most of their time
answering questions, they also post the occasional question.

Here's a link to a web page on the MVP program:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

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Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP
Access tips: www.datagnostics.com/tips.html

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Old October 1st, 2009, 11:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.macros,microsoft.public.access.modulesdaovba
owl
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Thank you so much for your prompt, kind, detailed and interesting reply.
What a lovely title - Most Valued Professional! I am so glad I asked.

"Dirk Goldgar" wrote:

"Owl" wrote in message
...

I understand that a person who asks a question is an OP and that the
highest
position here is an MVP, but what do both of those stand for (also MCP),
please? Presumably, the M stands for Microsoft, perhaps the P in MCP for
Professional?



I wouldn't think of them as ranks or positions. OP stands for "Original
Poster" (the one who made the first post in the discussion thread. MVP
stands for "Most Valuable Professional", an award given annually by
Microsoft to people who consistently provide high-quality, free support to
users of various MS products -- mostly online. MCP stands for "Microsoft
Certified Professional", a technical certification that can only be received
by taking a test. There are other, similar certifications. An MVP or MCP
can be an OP, naturally; even though the MVPs may spend most of their time
answering questions, they also post the occasional question.

Here's a link to a web page on the MVP program:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

--
Dirk Goldgar, MS Access MVP
Access tips: www.datagnostics.com/tips.html

(please reply to the newsgroup)


  #33  
Old October 1st, 2009, 11:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.macros,microsoft.public.access.modulesdaovba
owl
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Giggles at your "deciphering Rosetta Stone" analogy! Yes, these forum is a
good place to be.

"Jan Il" wrote:

I have been participating in these MS Access public newsgroups for over 10 years and they are among the most professional of the MS public newsgroups. All MVPs are volunteers and do not get paid for the time they spend in the many groups and forums in which they participate.

I have often been totally amazed at how they manage to accurately figure out some questions posted in these groups that would seem to require some form of Rosetta stone to decipher. They are usually so good at it I even once asked one of the MVPs a few years ago if they are each given a special code book as part of their MVP award to help figure out such confusing questions. :-)))

But, there are many others that are not MVPs who also volunteer in these groups and share so generously of their time and knowledge to help others are a great asset to these groups as well, and their efforts on the behalf of those who come to these groups seeking help is also very much appreciated.

Jan

"Jack Leach" dymondjack at hot mail dot com wrote in message ...
Those who come to these groups and give of their own personal time time and

expertise, no matter how little or how much, to help others are truly
deserving of our sincere thanks.


Some time ago I was perusing around in the Windows XP General group, and
came across a post where the op was sincerely complaining about MVPs...
something along the lines of "screw all you MVPs because I know you know the
answers but you just sit back and laugh at us and not tell us... blah blah
blah", because he didn't get an answer to his question in ten minutes or
whatever the case was.

It's nice to be part of community of specialized professionals, where such
ignorance is rarely found. And even nicer to hear back when people who
express their gratitude rather than idiocy like the above!


--
Jack Leach
www.tristatemachine.com

"I haven't failed, I've found ten thousand ways that don't work."
-Thomas Edison (1847-1931)



"Jan Il" wrote:

Agreed! Those who come to these groups and give of their own personal time time and expertise, no matter how little or how much, to help others are truly deserving of our sincere thanks. I personally know many who are long time MVPs, and many who are not...it is their desire to help others that brings them here.

Jan


"Leslie Isaacs" wrote in message ...
Hello All

I hope this will not be deemed to be inappropriate use of these newsgroups,
but here goes ...

Some of you will know that I have asked for, and received, a great deal of
help over the weeks/months(/years!) from the MVPs and others on these
newsgroups. I am consistently amazed by the fact that such high quality,
often quite in-depth help is made available to people like me by people like
... you all. Not only do us amateurs nearly always get specific answers to
our current problems (well - our access-related problems anyway!), but the
help we get often goes further in educating us how to use the specific
answer in more general situations. I've even got to the point where I have
felt able to suggest some answers to others' questions (albeit only where
the questioner is evidently even more inexperienced that I am!). Rarely in
life have I come across anything that is so useful, and valuable (in terms
of the degree of expertise that is offered), and free! So on behalf of all
of us questioners, I'd like to raise a glass of nice, warm English beer, and
say "Cheers" - you are all great!

Just felt I had to say that.
Leslie Isaacs




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Old October 18th, 2009, 11:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.macros,microsoft.public.access.modulesdaovba
John W. Vinson
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:26:06 -0700, "Jan Il" wrote:

But, there are many others that are not MVPs who also volunteer in these groups and
share so generously of their time and knowledge to help others are a great asset to
these groups as well, and their efforts on the behalf of those who come to these groups
seeking help is also very much appreciated.


.... and they (you?) are the very people who go on to be nominated as MVPs.

That's just how we all started. I don't think that very many people who came
to be MVP's set out with that goal in mind (and vice versa!)


--

John W. Vinson [MVP]
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 12:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.access.formscoding,microsoft.public.access.macros,microsoft.public.access.modulesdaovba
Justin
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On Oct 18, 6:58*pm, John W. Vinson
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:26:06 -0700, "Jan Il" wrote:
But, there are many others that are not MVPs who also volunteer in these groups and
share so generously of their time and knowledge to help others are a great asset to
these groups as well, and their efforts on the behalf of those who come to these groups
seeking help is also very much appreciated.


... and they (you?) are the very people who go on to be nominated as MVPs..

That's just how we all started. I don't think that very many people who came
to be MVP's set out with that goal in mind (and vice versa!)

--

* * * * * * *John W. Vinson [MVP]



I ran across this post while browsing the group for helpful posts. I
would like to add my thanks to all of those who have helped me in the
past and to those who will surely help me in the future. Hopefully one
day I will also be able to give some answers as well.

Thanks again to all the MVPs and others who give their time and
experience.

Justin Thomas
 




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