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John, you hit in on the head. Its simply to give the client the perception
of the drawings not being finalized as a cadd drawing typically does, but more of a sketch. Nothing changes in the drawing except the "line type/quality", but the client feels its still preliminary/conceptual in nature as oppsoed to hard line. Again the best analogy I can give is google's sketchup. You can draw anything, then apply a style and I can create a 3d model and submit it in various "stages" of compeltion, just by changing the line style. I tried importing the visio drawing as a jpg and recreating it, but its added work that I was hoping would be unnecessary. Alternately, importing it as a jpg into photoshop allows certain filters to be applied, but not quite the results i'm looking for. Look forward to hearing back on what you find from Cindy "John Marshall, MVP" wrote: I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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Hello John and Larry,
Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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That looks good. You seem to have made it long enough that the repeating of
the pattern is not noticable. So that may be the secret to creating an apparently random pattern. I could not find Cindy's stencil in my archive (it is probably there, I just can not remember the corect name), I've dropped Cindy a message to see if she still has a copy. Since this was before Microsoft, I'm hoping she is as much of a pack rat for Visio files as I. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hello John and Larry, Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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John,
that's it. can you also attach the jpg you created to your resposne. I couoldn't follow the directions in the link as it didn't see a reference to usign a jpg, but I've printed it out and will look again. But your instructions seem clear. From an archtiects perspective, I've given so many recs toVisio in the past which they haven't used, it probably doesn't pay to submit this one, but it still would sure be nice to just apply this style to any drawing. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello John and Larry, Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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Hello Larry,
Here's the jpg, and for anyone else who's interested I think I'll write this up as a blog post to show the steps in details, but basically it's as follows: 1) Click View / Drawing Explorer Window 2) Right click on the Line pattern folder and add a new line pattern and name it 'Pencil' 3) In the dialog under the 'Behavior' section click on the continous arch button (3rd from left) and check the 'Scaled' option. 4) Click OK and then right click the new 'Pencil' pattern that appears in the explorer and select 'Edit Pattern Shape' 5) Insert / Picture / From file... and select the jpg 6) Close the edit window clicking 'Yes' to the Update message box 7) Now select you lines, and select Format / Line... / Pattern drop down / 'Pencil' Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, that's it. can you also attach the jpg you created to your resposne. I couoldn't follow the directions in the link as it didn't see a reference to usign a jpg, but I've printed it out and will look again. But your instructions seem clear. From an archtiects perspective, I've given so many recs toVisio in the past which they haven't used, it probably doesn't pay to submit this one, but it still would sure be nice to just apply this style to any drawing. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello John and Larry, Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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Thanks John. I guess the ideal would be black shading on a transparent
background. It's an interesting effect anyway. I wonder what other uses it might have? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... That looks good. You seem to have made it long enough that the repeating of the pattern is not noticable. So that may be the secret to creating an apparently random pattern. I could not find Cindy's stencil in my archive (it is probably there, I just can not remember the corect name), I've dropped Cindy a message to see if she still has a copy. Since this was before Microsoft, I'm hoping she is as much of a pack rat for Visio files as I. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hello John and Larry, Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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When you create the blog, do not forget to mention the lack of frame
reference. There is no reference lines to indicate where a shape starts or ends and no reference lines to indicate how the height of the shape corresponds to the line width. For things like a Sine wave, you need to go outside the box. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hello Larry, Here's the jpg, and for anyone else who's interested I think I'll write this up as a blog post to show the steps in details, but basically it's as follows: 1) Click View / Drawing Explorer Window 2) Right click on the Line pattern folder and add a new line pattern and name it 'Pencil' 3) In the dialog under the 'Behavior' section click on the continous arch button (3rd from left) and check the 'Scaled' option. 4) Click OK and then right click the new 'Pencil' pattern that appears in the explorer and select 'Edit Pattern Shape' 5) Insert / Picture / From file... and select the jpg 6) Close the edit window clicking 'Yes' to the Update message box 7) Now select you lines, and select Format / Line... / Pattern drop down / 'Pencil' Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, that's it. can you also attach the jpg you created to your resposne. I couoldn't follow the directions in the link as it didn't see a reference to usign a jpg, but I've printed it out and will look again. But your instructions seem clear. From an archtiects perspective, I've given so many recs toVisio in the past which they haven't used, it probably doesn't pay to submit this one, but it still would sure be nice to just apply this style to any drawing. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello John and Larry, Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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well good news/bad news ;-) . Installed the line, works perfectly
except...... can not change thicknesses or patterns. and even worse, only really works in a 1 to 1 scale. Most of my drawings are in a scale for plans etc. Tried using it in a 1/2"-1'-0" scale adn it was hardly readable. Are these easy fixes? Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Here's the jpg, and for anyone else who's interested I think I'll write this up as a blog post to show the steps in details, but basically it's as follows: 1) Click View / Drawing Explorer Window 2) Right click on the Line pattern folder and add a new line pattern and name it 'Pencil' 3) In the dialog under the 'Behavior' section click on the continous arch button (3rd from left) and check the 'Scaled' option. 4) Click OK and then right click the new 'Pencil' pattern that appears in the explorer and select 'Edit Pattern Shape' 5) Insert / Picture / From file... and select the jpg 6) Close the edit window clicking 'Yes' to the Update message box 7) Now select you lines, and select Format / Line... / Pattern drop down / 'Pencil' Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, that's it. can you also attach the jpg you created to your resposne. I couoldn't follow the directions in the link as it didn't see a reference to usign a jpg, but I've printed it out and will look again. But your instructions seem clear. From an archtiects perspective, I've given so many recs toVisio in the past which they haven't used, it probably doesn't pay to submit this one, but it still would sure be nice to just apply this style to any drawing. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello John and Larry, Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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Here a video on Google Sketchup Pro - Layout see "What is Layout" http://sketchup.google.com/gsu6vtvideos.html "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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Thanks John, good point. Will do.
Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... When you create the blog, do not forget to mention the lack of frame reference. There is no reference lines to indicate where a shape starts or ends and no reference lines to indicate how the height of the shape corresponds to the line width. For things like a Sine wave, you need to go outside the box. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hello Larry, Here's the jpg, and for anyone else who's interested I think I'll write this up as a blog post to show the steps in details, but basically it's as follows: 1) Click View / Drawing Explorer Window 2) Right click on the Line pattern folder and add a new line pattern and name it 'Pencil' 3) In the dialog under the 'Behavior' section click on the continous arch button (3rd from left) and check the 'Scaled' option. 4) Click OK and then right click the new 'Pencil' pattern that appears in the explorer and select 'Edit Pattern Shape' 5) Insert / Picture / From file... and select the jpg 6) Close the edit window clicking 'Yes' to the Update message box 7) Now select you lines, and select Format / Line... / Pattern drop down / 'Pencil' Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, that's it. can you also attach the jpg you created to your resposne. I couoldn't follow the directions in the link as it didn't see a reference to usign a jpg, but I've printed it out and will look again. But your instructions seem clear. From an archtiects perspective, I've given so many recs toVisio in the past which they haven't used, it probably doesn't pay to submit this one, but it still would sure be nice to just apply this style to any drawing. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello John and Larry, Well further to John's answer I've been trying out some custom line patterns with some success. I used Expression Design to create a line, which I then applied a 'pencil-like' line pattern to and then exported it as a 100 x 10 pixel jpg. You can then add create a new line pattern in Visio, import the image into the line pattern and then apply to the lines required. 10px high is probably a bit too fat but you could play around with the line pattern image to get what you're after. I'll attach a screen shot (only for Outlook Express / Mail users I'm afraid) that shows the effect. For details on creating your own custom line patterns check out this link: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps. Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message ... I understand what he is looking for, but Visio is missing a random property in the line patterns. Create a line pattern in Visio and it is nice, neat, clean and organized. Larry is looking for a way to change the line pattern so that it has the random pattern of a hand drawn line. There have been times when I have created preliminary sketches and the client has considered them as final drawings and has wasted time concentrating on the details of the line measurements rather than the overall layout of the drawing. Being able to switch the line pattern to a hand drawn one would deemphasis the details and make the overall drawing more important. This line pattern would be handy in being able to differentiated finished portions of a drawing from the preliminary portion. For now I use colour to indicate portions that are to be highlighted (green) or ignored (red). Back in the old days, Cindy L created something, I'll see if I can dig it out of the archives. Another thing to consider is to change the text font, there are many that look like they are hand drawn. John... Visio MVP Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm "John Goldsmith" wrote in message ... Hi Larry, As we're having trouble understanding, could you point to a web link as an example of what you're after? Alas, I'm not an architect Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... John, well this is a nice find...but for other things. Was just basically hoping I could select a line type with a sketchy quality and point to the drawing or items in the drawing and have them take that quality. Almost like a style of drawing - preliminary/hand versus computer hard lined. Larry "John Goldsmith" wrote: Hello Larry, Do you mean something like View / Toolbars / Ink ? Best regards John John Goldsmith www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "larry" wrote in message ... I guess I'm still not being clear. Well aare of the pattern menu, but there is no"sketchy" line type. Basically, more of a freehand looking line drawn with a marker. If you were an architect, the sort of line work you do on yellow trace. If your familiar with googles sketchup, you would know exactly waht I mean. "Paul Herber" wrote: ah, select the line and then menu Format - Line then select the pattern you require. On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:53:02 -0800, larry wrote: not exactly what I mean. I'm talking about a line type tool that looks "sketchy". Sort of like drawing with a marker instead of hardlines. Makes it look more preliminary/conceptual. Larry "Paul Herber" wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:00 -0800, larry wrote: any way to get a "sketch" line to make your presentation look for preliminary There are a couple of freehand tools on the drawing toolbar. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. Visio Utilities http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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