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You are clearly not reading what has already been posted. PUBLISHER AND WORD
ARE INCOMPATIBLE!!!!! If you can't change the pasted version to a facsimile of what you had in Word then end of story. By a proper graphics application I mean something like Photoshop or one if its cheaper clones. Something that allows you to create the graphics that you want to put on your letterhead. Then see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb "Graham Mayor" wrote: Publisher is entirely the wrong tool for this. You have a few options. 1. Write the letters in Publisher - this can work if you want to mail merge, but is highly impractical for anything else. 2. Copy the graphics and paste to Word as I suggested imitially and hope that you can re-arrange the graphics to display as you had them in Publisher. 3. Create/edit the graphics in a proper graphics application and insert the results into Word. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: If you have Pub 2003, you can save that Pub doc as a .jpg, use a graphics program to trim out what you don't want, and then insert that into a Word doc. I have to ask - why didn't you just use Word to create the letterhead in the first place? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... I made up my letterheads in Microsoft Publisher but I don't seem to be able to transfer the letterheads to Microsoft Word so that I can print directly onto the letterhead and save as such. How can I do this? I used publisher to modify the graphics for the letterhead. Can you do that in word? |
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Hi Apb,
What will sometimes work, for reusing Publisher single page content in Word, is to use the Web Page save/open capabilities of the two programs (success in this can depend on a number of factors, including how complex your letterhead is, which design you started with and how close to the margins you placed things). Here is one method you may want to try. 1. In Word use View=Toolbars and turn on the Drawing Toolbar. 2. In Word use Tools=Options=General and turn on [x] Confirm Conversions on Open 3. In Word use Tools=Customize=Commands, select the 'Drawing' category and then drag the 'select multiple objects' command to the Drawing toolbar (next to the already present 'white arrow' icon, then close the customization dialog, then close Word (If prompted to save changes to the global template, choose Yes). 4. In Publisher, open your letterhead file then use File=Save as Web page (single file) and save it to an empty folder and close Publisher. Make a note of the file name and folder name. 5. In Windows Explorer, locate the .htm or .mht file you just saved, right click it, choose 'Open With' and select Microsoft Word. 5. In Word, once the file is opened in Word click on the 'Select Multiple Objects' choice on the drawing toolbar and choose 'Select All'. 6. In Word, on the drawing toolbar use Draw=Group. 7. In Word use ctrl+X to cut the letterhead object out of the main document area. 8. In Word use View=Header and Footer and use Ctrl+V to paste the letterhead there. 9. In Word save the file as a .dot (template) or a .doc file then use View=Print Layout to see if that gives you close to your original letterhead. ================ "apb" wrote in message ... I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Did you try what I suggested in the first response?
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb "Graham Mayor" wrote: Publisher is entirely the wrong tool for this. You have a few options. 1. Write the letters in Publisher - this can work if you want to mail merge, but is highly impractical for anything else. 2. Copy the graphics and paste to Word as I suggested imitially and hope that you can re-arrange the graphics to display as you had them in Publisher. 3. Create/edit the graphics in a proper graphics application and insert the results into Word. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: If you have Pub 2003, you can save that Pub doc as a .jpg, use a graphics program to trim out what you don't want, and then insert that into a Word doc. I have to ask - why didn't you just use Word to create the letterhead in the first place? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... I made up my letterheads in Microsoft Publisher but I don't seem to be able to transfer the letterheads to Microsoft Word so that I can print directly onto the letterhead and save as such. How can I do this? I used publisher to modify the graphics for the letterhead. Can you do that in word? |
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To Graham Mayor,
I still can't understand how Microsoft 'Word' and Microsoft 'Publisher' can be INCOMPATIBLE. They are both part of my Windows XP system. I could understand if one was Apple and the other Microsoft, but both being Microsoft programs it just doesn't make sense to have two INCOMPATIBLE PROGRAMS on the same system! "Graham Mayor" wrote: You are clearly not reading what has already been posted. PUBLISHER AND WORD ARE INCOMPATIBLE!!!!! If you can't change the pasted version to a facsimile of what you had in Word then end of story. By a proper graphics application I mean something like Photoshop or one if its cheaper clones. Something that allows you to create the graphics that you want to put on your letterhead. Then see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb "Graham Mayor" wrote: Publisher is entirely the wrong tool for this. You have a few options. 1. Write the letters in Publisher - this can work if you want to mail merge, but is highly impractical for anything else. 2. Copy the graphics and paste to Word as I suggested imitially and hope that you can re-arrange the graphics to display as you had them in Publisher. 3. Create/edit the graphics in a proper graphics application and insert the results into Word. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: If you have Pub 2003, you can save that Pub doc as a .jpg, use a graphics program to trim out what you don't want, and then insert that into a Word doc. I have to ask - why didn't you just use Word to create the letterhead in the first place? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... I made up my letterheads in Microsoft Publisher but I don't seem to be able to transfer the letterheads to Microsoft Word so that I can print directly onto the letterhead and save as such. How can I do this? I used publisher to modify the graphics for the letterhead. Can you do that in word? |
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They are two separate programs! Microsoft also makes Paint and Windows Media
Player and they aren't compatible. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... To Graham Mayor, I still can't understand how Microsoft 'Word' and Microsoft 'Publisher' can be INCOMPATIBLE. They are both part of my Windows XP system. I could understand if one was Apple and the other Microsoft, but both being Microsoft programs it just doesn't make sense to have two INCOMPATIBLE PROGRAMS on the same system! "Graham Mayor" wrote: You are clearly not reading what has already been posted. PUBLISHER AND WORD ARE INCOMPATIBLE!!!!! If you can't change the pasted version to a facsimile of what you had in Word then end of story. By a proper graphics application I mean something like Photoshop or one if its cheaper clones. Something that allows you to create the graphics that you want to put on your letterhead. Then see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb "Graham Mayor" wrote: Publisher is entirely the wrong tool for this. You have a few options. 1. Write the letters in Publisher - this can work if you want to mail merge, but is highly impractical for anything else. 2. Copy the graphics and paste to Word as I suggested imitially and hope that you can re-arrange the graphics to display as you had them in Publisher. 3. Create/edit the graphics in a proper graphics application and insert the results into Word. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: If you have Pub 2003, you can save that Pub doc as a .jpg, use a graphics program to trim out what you don't want, and then insert that into a Word doc. I have to ask - why didn't you just use Word to create the letterhead in the first place? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... I made up my letterheads in Microsoft Publisher but I don't seem to be able to transfer the letterheads to Microsoft Word so that I can print directly onto the letterhead and save as such. How can I do this? I used publisher to modify the graphics for the letterhead. Can you do that in word? |
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"Publisher is a cheapie "toy" page-layout program"?
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Graham is struggling to get you to read what he is writing... I will try a different way, but I have a feeling that "there are none so deaf as those who will not hear..." Word will not import Publisher documents. Because THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED. Please try to understand that Publisher is a cheapie "toy" page-layout program that was built down to a price. The idea was to make an affordable program that would enable home users to do basic publishing. Word and Publisher can produce files that look and print almost exactly the same. But the internal binary representation is utterly different, because of the different purposes the two bits of software have when they come to work on that file. To use an analogy, it's as if you were creating an advertisement for different countries. You might express one in English for use in America, and advertise the same product in Arabic for use in Iraq. The intended audience would understand the same thing from each advertisement, but the ads would look completely different. High-end publishing programs such as are used to make magazines and newspapers contain programs to translate the internal structure of one file type into their native structure. But these translators are large and expensive programs. Microsoft had to make a choice: Sell Publisher for $99.00 without translators, or for $850.00 with translators. They chose to produce the cheap version, figuring that would suit the majority of customers. If you have the $850.00 to spend, go buy Adobe Creative Suite 2 and you will not have the problem. If you don't want to spend that much, then you either insert your publisher file into Word as a graphic, or you can't insert it into Word. Graham suggested that you might re-draw the thing in Word. Word has a more advanced version of the same drawing tools in it that Publisher has. That's what I would do too. Otherwise: Sorry! The programs are incompatible. Oh: and NEITHER of them are "part of the Windows XP system". Windows XP is an operating system that does not include any applications at all. Word is a member of the Office System. Publisher is a member of the Consumer Applications bundle. The That's about as clear as I can make it :-) Cheers On 15/1/07 11:01 AM, in article , "apb" wrote: To Graham Mayor, I still can't understand how Microsoft 'Word' and Microsoft 'Publisher' can be INCOMPATIBLE. They are both part of my Windows XP system. I could understand if one was Apple and the other Microsoft, but both being Microsoft programs it just doesn't make sense to have two INCOMPATIBLE PROGRAMS on the same system! "Graham Mayor" wrote: You are clearly not reading what has already been posted. PUBLISHER AND WORD ARE INCOMPATIBLE!!!!! If you can't change the pasted version to a facsimile of what you had in Word then end of story. By a proper graphics application I mean something like Photoshop or one if its cheaper clones. Something that allows you to create the graphics that you want to put on your letterhead. Then see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb "Graham Mayor" wrote: Publisher is entirely the wrong tool for this. You have a few options. 1. Write the letters in Publisher - this can work if you want to mail merge, but is highly impractical for anything else. 2. Copy the graphics and paste to Word as I suggested imitially and hope that you can re-arrange the graphics to display as you had them in Publisher. 3. Create/edit the graphics in a proper graphics application and insert the results into Word. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: If you have Pub 2003, you can save that Pub doc as a .jpg, use a graphics program to trim out what you don't want, and then insert that into a Word doc. I have to ask - why didn't you just use Word to create the letterhead in the first place? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... I made up my letterheads in Microsoft Publisher but I don't seem to be able to transfer the letterheads to Microsoft Word so that I can print directly onto the letterhead and save as such. How can I do this? I used publisher to modify the graphics for the letterhead. Can you do that in word? -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Dear Bob,
Thanks for your advice. I tried what you suggested but it comes up in Word as ten seperate items. I can get these items on the page but the tools in Word cann't reorganise the items back to the original letterhead. Anything else I could try? Thanks, apb "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: Hi Apb, What will sometimes work, for reusing Publisher single page content in Word, is to use the Web Page save/open capabilities of the two programs (success in this can depend on a number of factors, including how complex your letterhead is, which design you started with and how close to the margins you placed things). Here is one method you may want to try. 1. In Word use View=Toolbars and turn on the Drawing Toolbar. 2. In Word use Tools=Options=General and turn on [x] Confirm Conversions on Open 3. In Word use Tools=Customize=Commands, select the 'Drawing' category and then drag the 'select multiple objects' command to the Drawing toolbar (next to the already present 'white arrow' icon, then close the customization dialog, then close Word (If prompted to save changes to the global template, choose Yes). 4. In Publisher, open your letterhead file then use File=Save as Web page (single file) and save it to an empty folder and close Publisher. Make a note of the file name and folder name. 5. In Windows Explorer, locate the .htm or .mht file you just saved, right click it, choose 'Open With' and select Microsoft Word. 5. In Word, once the file is opened in Word click on the 'Select Multiple Objects' choice on the drawing toolbar and choose 'Select All'. 6. In Word, on the drawing toolbar use Draw=Group. 7. In Word use ctrl+X to cut the letterhead object out of the main document area. 8. In Word use View=Header and Footer and use Ctrl+V to paste the letterhead there. 9. In Word save the file as a .dot (template) or a .doc file then use View=Print Layout to see if that gives you close to your original letterhead. ================ "apb" wrote in message ... I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Dear JoAnn,
Thank you for your in depth explanation of Microsoft 'word' and 'publisher'. Now at least I have an understanding of the situation and why this problem exists. It's unfortunate that I cann't do what I want to do so I'll continue to layout the typing in 'word' for the letterhead and then print it on a letterhead. Thanks, apb "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: "Publisher is a cheapie "toy" page-layout program"? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Graham is struggling to get you to read what he is writing... I will try a different way, but I have a feeling that "there are none so deaf as those who will not hear..." Word will not import Publisher documents. Because THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED. Please try to understand that Publisher is a cheapie "toy" page-layout program that was built down to a price. The idea was to make an affordable program that would enable home users to do basic publishing. Word and Publisher can produce files that look and print almost exactly the same. But the internal binary representation is utterly different, because of the different purposes the two bits of software have when they come to work on that file. To use an analogy, it's as if you were creating an advertisement for different countries. You might express one in English for use in America, and advertise the same product in Arabic for use in Iraq. The intended audience would understand the same thing from each advertisement, but the ads would look completely different. High-end publishing programs such as are used to make magazines and newspapers contain programs to translate the internal structure of one file type into their native structure. But these translators are large and expensive programs. Microsoft had to make a choice: Sell Publisher for $99.00 without translators, or for $850.00 with translators. They chose to produce the cheap version, figuring that would suit the majority of customers. If you have the $850.00 to spend, go buy Adobe Creative Suite 2 and you will not have the problem. If you don't want to spend that much, then you either insert your publisher file into Word as a graphic, or you can't insert it into Word. Graham suggested that you might re-draw the thing in Word. Word has a more advanced version of the same drawing tools in it that Publisher has. That's what I would do too. Otherwise: Sorry! The programs are incompatible. Oh: and NEITHER of them are "part of the Windows XP system". Windows XP is an operating system that does not include any applications at all. Word is a member of the Office System. Publisher is a member of the Consumer Applications bundle. The That's about as clear as I can make it :-) Cheers On 15/1/07 11:01 AM, in article , "apb" wrote: To Graham Mayor, I still can't understand how Microsoft 'Word' and Microsoft 'Publisher' can be INCOMPATIBLE. They are both part of my Windows XP system. I could understand if one was Apple and the other Microsoft, but both being Microsoft programs it just doesn't make sense to have two INCOMPATIBLE PROGRAMS on the same system! "Graham Mayor" wrote: You are clearly not reading what has already been posted. PUBLISHER AND WORD ARE INCOMPATIBLE!!!!! If you can't change the pasted version to a facsimile of what you had in Word then end of story. By a proper graphics application I mean something like Photoshop or one if its cheaper clones. Something that allows you to create the graphics that you want to put on your letterhead. Then see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: I've tried copying the letterhead and pasting it to word but it comes up completely differently and I can't change it back to the original with the tools in word. (that's why it was done in publisher in the first place). What do you mean by a proper graphics application and in what program? apb "Graham Mayor" wrote: Publisher is entirely the wrong tool for this. You have a few options. 1. Write the letters in Publisher - this can work if you want to mail merge, but is highly impractical for anything else. 2. Copy the graphics and paste to Word as I suggested imitially and hope that you can re-arrange the graphics to display as you had them in Publisher. 3. Create/edit the graphics in a proper graphics application and insert the results into Word. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org apb wrote: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote: If you have Pub 2003, you can save that Pub doc as a .jpg, use a graphics program to trim out what you don't want, and then insert that into a Word doc. I have to ask - why didn't you just use Word to create the letterhead in the first place? -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 "apb" wrote in message ... I made up my letterheads in Microsoft Publisher but I don't seem to be able to transfer the letterheads to Microsoft Word so that I can print directly onto the letterhead and save as such. How can I do this? I used publisher to modify the graphics for the letterhead. Can you do that in word? -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Hi APB,
Having the separate items can be a good thing in this case, in case you need to relocate or modify the items When you used the 'Select Mutliple Objects' tool (which grabs all of the items so you can group them together) did all of the pieces show up in the dialog box for you to use the [Select all] button? If not, then before opening the document in Word, use Tools=Options=Edit to set the "Insert/Paste Pictures" setting to 'in front of text' then try using the steps again. =============== "apb" wrote in message ... Dear Bob, Thanks for your advice. I tried what you suggested but it comes up in Word as ten seperate items. I can get these items on the page but the tools in Word cann't reorganise the items back to the original letterhead. Anything else I could try? Thanks, apb -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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