Edit Check Full Name?

I am trying to add multiple Contacts within a Contact. Is it possible to
edit Check Full Name so that when I am importing data through ContactGenie,
that I can have the 2nd and/or 3rd Contact Name not only show in the proper
location but be editable through Check Full Name?

Chunnel

If this is a question intended for me (ContactGenie) - please forward the
request to "support at contactgenie.com". This newsgroup is explicitly and
exclusively for Outlook questions so any specific CG product questions
should be sent to the support email address. Aside from that, don't exactly
understand the question or what you're trying to do:

On a generic note, there's no facility in Outlook or any import process that
I'm aware of that has a "one to many" contact link when importing so on the
surface the answer would be that whatever it is that you're looking to do is
not possible.

Karl
__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
I am trying to add multiple Contacts within a Contact. Is it possible to
edit Check Full Name so that when I am importing data through
ContactGenie,
that I can have the 2nd and/or 3rd Contact Name not only show in the
proper
location but be editable through Check Full Name?

When trying to define the value of a Command Button, if you go to Value and
then Choose Field and then All Contact Fields you will then find Check
Name... Check Name is linked to the Command Button on the top left corner of
a standard Contact Form. It brings up the First Name, Middle Name, Last
Name, Suffix... window. Then this data is imported into Full Name. I want
to be able to use this Check Name for multiple Contacts, 3 in total, on Page
2. I want to be able to import data through ContactGenie into Check Name for
Contact #2. The 3rd will need to be manually inputed. The question is can I
use Check Name for Contact #2 and then define a New Field called 2nd Full
Name with the Type: Combination and then Format the Combination to use 2nd
First Name, 2nd Middle Name and 2nd Last Name.

I don't know how to explain it any better then that. And I don't believe
this is a ContactGenie issue, otherwise I would ask them.


"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Chunnel

If this is a question intended for me (ContactGenie) - please forward the
request to "support at contactgenie.com". This newsgroup is explicitly and
exclusively for Outlook questions so any specific CG product questions
should be sent to the support email address. Aside from that, don't exactly
understand the question or what you're trying to do:

On a generic note, there's no facility in Outlook or any import process that
I'm aware of that has a "one to many" contact link when importing so on the
surface the answer would be that whatever it is that you're looking to do is
not possible.

Karl
__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
I am trying to add multiple Contacts within a Contact. Is it possible to
edit Check Full Name so that when I am importing data through
ContactGenie,
that I can have the 2nd and/or 3rd Contact Name not only show in the
proper
location but be editable through Check Full Name?

If I understand this correctly, the short answer to your question is "no"
via the approach you outlined for a number of reasons (see alternative
option to accomplishing the same thing)

#1 - The FullName field is actually a "derived" field made up of the sum of
its parts (i.e. FirstName, LastName and all other name elements). The "Check
Name...." you're referring to simply displays a quick UI facility to enter
the individual components without going to the All fields tab otherwise
Outlook will try and determine what the individual pieces are suppose to be
based on the data entered in the FullName field. Similarly, if you import
data to the FullName field (via Outlook or any other way) - the individual
elements are filled by Outlook or alternatively, if you import the data to
the individual elements - Outlook derives the full name from those pieces.
No more - no less and you cannot over-ride this functionality (that I know
of).

#2 - Check Name.... is tied to those specific fields so not something you
could use as a pass thru to create another "full name"

#3 - Again if I understand this right, in order to do what you want, one
contact import record would contain the individual name values for for the
2nd and 3rd contact (i.e. FirstName2, LastName2, FirstName3,
LastName3.....and whatever other elements). Your objective is to create one
FullName field for each comprised of the appropriate individual parts. Not
possible the way you described (but certainly will stand corrected if
someone else knows this answer to be incorrect).

However..............some possible alternative approaches on the assumption
that you input data contains the individual name elements in separate fields
(i.e. FirstName2, MiddleName2, LastName2 etc etc).

#1 - Create the individual fields for your form and make these "Not Visible"
on your form. The create another combination or formula field that would
result in a "FullName2", "FullName3" etc making sure you take out
unnecessary spaces for any missing fields
#2 - Pre-process your input data file creating a "FullName2" field from the
inidividual pieces in the input data record and import the data accordingly.

If the above doesn't address what you're asking - then I'll have to leave it
to someone else who hopefully better understands the question better.

Irrespective of the approach, since you're using custom fields, you'll need
a 3rd party product to import data to custom fields.

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"chunnel" wrote in message
...
When trying to define the value of a Command Button, if you go to Value
and
then Choose Field and then All Contact Fields you will then find Check
Name... Check Name is linked to the Command Button on the top left corner
of
a standard Contact Form. It brings up the First Name, Middle Name, Last
Name, Suffix... window. Then this data is imported into Full Name. I
want
to be able to use this Check Name for multiple Contacts, 3 in total, on
Page
2. I want to be able to import data through ContactGenie into Check Name
for
Contact #2. The 3rd will need to be manually inputed. The question is
can I
use Check Name for Contact #2 and then define a New Field called 2nd Full
Name with the Type: Combination and then Format the Combination to use 2nd
First Name, 2nd Middle Name and 2nd Last Name.

I don't know how to explain it any better then that. And I don't believe
this is a ContactGenie issue, otherwise I would ask them.


"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Chunnel

If this is a question intended for me (ContactGenie) - please forward the
request to "support at contactgenie.com". This newsgroup is explicitly
and
exclusively for Outlook questions so any specific CG product questions
should be sent to the support email address. Aside from that, don't
exactly
understand the question or what you're trying to do:

On a generic note, there's no facility in Outlook or any import process
that
I'm aware of that has a "one to many" contact link when importing so on
the
surface the answer would be that whatever it is that you're looking to do
is
not possible.

Karl
__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
I am trying to add multiple Contacts within a Contact. Is it possible
to
edit Check Full Name so that when I am importing data through
ContactGenie,
that I can have the 2nd and/or 3rd Contact Name not only show in the
proper
location but be editable through Check Full Name?

Thank you for any help you can give me. I was going to try to design a Check
Name type window, but what I found out was that all my user defined fields
were blank when trying to tie a combined entry of this data to the command
button. I had very limited options for the command button, so I thought I'd
see if the Check Name command could work. Maybe you can explain why so much
data is deleted when trying to tie it to the command button and how I might
add my entry so that it can be tied to the command button.



"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

If I understand this correctly, the short answer to your question is "no"
via the approach you outlined for a number of reasons (see alternative
option to accomplishing the same thing)

#1 - The FullName field is actually a "derived" field made up of the sum of
its parts (i.e. FirstName, LastName and all other name elements). The "Check
Name...." you're referring to simply displays a quick UI facility to enter
the individual components without going to the All fields tab otherwise
Outlook will try and determine what the individual pieces are suppose to be
based on the data entered in the FullName field. Similarly, if you import
data to the FullName field (via Outlook or any other way) - the individual
elements are filled by Outlook or alternatively, if you import the data to
the individual elements - Outlook derives the full name from those pieces.
No more - no less and you cannot over-ride this functionality (that I know
of).

#2 - Check Name.... is tied to those specific fields so not something you
could use as a pass thru to create another "full name"

#3 - Again if I understand this right, in order to do what you want, one
contact import record would contain the individual name values for for the
2nd and 3rd contact (i.e. FirstName2, LastName2, FirstName3,
LastName3.....and whatever other elements). Your objective is to create one
FullName field for each comprised of the appropriate individual parts. Not
possible the way you described (but certainly will stand corrected if
someone else knows this answer to be incorrect).

However..............some possible alternative approaches on the assumption
that you input data contains the individual name elements in separate fields
(i.e. FirstName2, MiddleName2, LastName2 etc etc).

#1 - Create the individual fields for your form and make these "Not Visible"
on your form. The create another combination or formula field that would
result in a "FullName2", "FullName3" etc making sure you take out
unnecessary spaces for any missing fields
#2 - Pre-process your input data file creating a "FullName2" field from the
inidividual pieces in the input data record and import the data accordingly.

If the above doesn't address what you're asking - then I'll have to leave it
to someone else who hopefully better understands the question better.

Irrespective of the approach, since you're using custom fields, you'll need
a 3rd party product to import data to custom fields.

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"chunnel" wrote in message
...
When trying to define the value of a Command Button, if you go to Value
and
then Choose Field and then All Contact Fields you will then find Check
Name... Check Name is linked to the Command Button on the top left corner
of
a standard Contact Form. It brings up the First Name, Middle Name, Last
Name, Suffix... window. Then this data is imported into Full Name. I
want
to be able to use this Check Name for multiple Contacts, 3 in total, on
Page
2. I want to be able to import data through ContactGenie into Check Name
for
Contact #2. The 3rd will need to be manually inputed. The question is
can I
use Check Name for Contact #2 and then define a New Field called 2nd Full
Name with the Type: Combination and then Format the Combination to use 2nd
First Name, 2nd Middle Name and 2nd Last Name.

I don't know how to explain it any better then that. And I don't believe
this is a ContactGenie issue, otherwise I would ask them.


"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Chunnel

If this is a question intended for me (ContactGenie) - please forward the
request to "support at contactgenie.com". This newsgroup is explicitly
and
exclusively for Outlook questions so any specific CG product questions
should be sent to the support email address. Aside from that, don't
exactly
understand the question or what you're trying to do:

On a generic note, there's no facility in Outlook or any import process
that
I'm aware of that has a "one to many" contact link when importing so on
the
surface the answer would be that whatever it is that you're looking to do
is
not possible.

Karl
__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
I am trying to add multiple Contacts within a Contact. Is it possible
to
edit Check Full Name so that when I am importing data through
ContactGenie,
that I can have the 2nd and/or 3rd Contact Name not only show in the
proper
location but be editable through Check Full Name?

Your questions are out of my comfort zone. Actually, you should pose the
question(s) down the hall in the group that is specifically intended for
"Outlook forms". Suspect that you will likely find more and better answers
there.

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
Thank you for any help you can give me. I was going to try to design a
Check
Name type window, but what I found out was that all my user defined fields
were blank when trying to tie a combined entry of this data to the command
button. I had very limited options for the command button, so I thought
I'd
see if the Check Name command could work. Maybe you can explain why so
much
data is deleted when trying to tie it to the command button and how I
might
add my entry so that it can be tied to the command button.



"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

If I understand this correctly, the short answer to your question is "no"
via the approach you outlined for a number of reasons (see alternative
option to accomplishing the same thing)

#1 - The FullName field is actually a "derived" field made up of the sum
of
its parts (i.e. FirstName, LastName and all other name elements). The
"Check
Name...." you're referring to simply displays a quick UI facility to
enter
the individual components without going to the All fields tab otherwise
Outlook will try and determine what the individual pieces are suppose to
be
based on the data entered in the FullName field. Similarly, if you import
data to the FullName field (via Outlook or any other way) - the
individual
elements are filled by Outlook or alternatively, if you import the data
to
the individual elements - Outlook derives the full name from those
pieces.
No more - no less and you cannot over-ride this functionality (that I
know
of).

#2 - Check Name.... is tied to those specific fields so not something you
could use as a pass thru to create another "full name"

#3 - Again if I understand this right, in order to do what you want, one
contact import record would contain the individual name values for for
the
2nd and 3rd contact (i.e. FirstName2, LastName2, FirstName3,
LastName3.....and whatever other elements). Your objective is to create
one
FullName field for each comprised of the appropriate individual parts.
Not
possible the way you described (but certainly will stand corrected if
someone else knows this answer to be incorrect).

However..............some possible alternative approaches on the
assumption
that you input data contains the individual name elements in separate
fields
(i.e. FirstName2, MiddleName2, LastName2 etc etc).

#1 - Create the individual fields for your form and make these "Not
Visible"
on your form. The create another combination or formula field that would
result in a "FullName2", "FullName3" etc making sure you take out
unnecessary spaces for any missing fields
#2 - Pre-process your input data file creating a "FullName2" field from
the
inidividual pieces in the input data record and import the data
accordingly.

If the above doesn't address what you're asking - then I'll have to leave
it
to someone else who hopefully better understands the question better.

Irrespective of the approach, since you're using custom fields, you'll
need
a 3rd party product to import data to custom fields.

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"chunnel" wrote in message
...
When trying to define the value of a Command Button, if you go to Value
and
then Choose Field and then All Contact Fields you will then find Check
Name... Check Name is linked to the Command Button on the top left
corner
of
a standard Contact Form. It brings up the First Name, Middle Name,
Last
Name, Suffix... window. Then this data is imported into Full Name. I
want
to be able to use this Check Name for multiple Contacts, 3 in total, on
Page
2. I want to be able to import data through ContactGenie into Check
Name
for
Contact #2. The 3rd will need to be manually inputed. The question is
can I
use Check Name for Contact #2 and then define a New Field called 2nd
Full
Name with the Type: Combination and then Format the Combination to use
2nd
First Name, 2nd Middle Name and 2nd Last Name.

I don't know how to explain it any better then that. And I don't
believe
this is a ContactGenie issue, otherwise I would ask them.


"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Chunnel

If this is a question intended for me (ContactGenie) - please forward
the
request to "support at contactgenie.com". This newsgroup is explicitly
and
exclusively for Outlook questions so any specific CG product questions
should be sent to the support email address. Aside from that, don't
exactly
understand the question or what you're trying to do:

On a generic note, there's no facility in Outlook or any import
process
that
I'm aware of that has a "one to many" contact link when importing so
on
the
surface the answer would be that whatever it is that you're looking to
do
is
not possible.

Karl
__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
I am trying to add multiple Contacts within a Contact. Is it
possible
to
edit Check Full Name so that when I am importing data through
ContactGenie,
that I can have the 2nd and/or 3rd Contact Name not only show in the
proper
location but be editable through Check Full Name?

I've decided to simplify everything, I'm just using a standard Contact form
and using ContactGenie to automatically create new user fields for certain
data. This data then shows up in the all fields tab. Much easier.

By the way, when my cursor is placed over this message, it keeps blinking a
message every second saying "Enter your message". Can I turn this off or is
this something at Microsoft? If I move it away from the Message section my
cursor acts normally.

"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Your questions are out of my comfort zone. Actually, you should pose the
question(s) down the hall in the group that is specifically intended for
"Outlook forms". Suspect that you will likely find more and better answers
there.

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
Thank you for any help you can give me. I was going to try to design a
Check
Name type window, but what I found out was that all my user defined fields
were blank when trying to tie a combined entry of this data to the command
button. I had very limited options for the command button, so I thought
I'd
see if the Check Name command could work. Maybe you can explain why so
much
data is deleted when trying to tie it to the command button and how I
might
add my entry so that it can be tied to the command button.



"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

If I understand this correctly, the short answer to your question is "no"
via the approach you outlined for a number of reasons (see alternative
option to accomplishing the same thing)

#1 - The FullName field is actually a "derived" field made up of the sum
of
its parts (i.e. FirstName, LastName and all other name elements). The
"Check
Name...." you're referring to simply displays a quick UI facility to
enter
the individual components without going to the All fields tab otherwise
Outlook will try and determine what the individual pieces are suppose to
be
based on the data entered in the FullName field. Similarly, if you import
data to the FullName field (via Outlook or any other way) - the
individual
elements are filled by Outlook or alternatively, if you import the data
to
the individual elements - Outlook derives the full name from those
pieces.
No more - no less and you cannot over-ride this functionality (that I
know
of).

#2 - Check Name.... is tied to those specific fields so not something you
could use as a pass thru to create another "full name"

#3 - Again if I understand this right, in order to do what you want, one
contact import record would contain the individual name values for for
the
2nd and 3rd contact (i.e. FirstName2, LastName2, FirstName3,
LastName3.....and whatever other elements). Your objective is to create
one
FullName field for each comprised of the appropriate individual parts.
Not
possible the way you described (but certainly will stand corrected if
someone else knows this answer to be incorrect).

However..............some possible alternative approaches on the
assumption
that you input data contains the individual name elements in separate
fields
(i.e. FirstName2, MiddleName2, LastName2 etc etc).

#1 - Create the individual fields for your form and make these "Not
Visible"
on your form. The create another combination or formula field that would
result in a "FullName2", "FullName3" etc making sure you take out
unnecessary spaces for any missing fields
#2 - Pre-process your input data file creating a "FullName2" field from
the
inidividual pieces in the input data record and import the data
accordingly.

If the above doesn't address what you're asking - then I'll have to leave
it
to someone else who hopefully better understands the question better.

Irrespective of the approach, since you're using custom fields, you'll
need
a 3rd party product to import data to custom fields.

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com



"chunnel" wrote in message
...
When trying to define the value of a Command Button, if you go to Value
and
then Choose Field and then All Contact Fields you will then find Check
Name... Check Name is linked to the Command Button on the top left
corner
of
a standard Contact Form. It brings up the First Name, Middle Name,
Last
Name, Suffix... window. Then this data is imported into Full Name. I
want
to be able to use this Check Name for multiple Contacts, 3 in total, on
Page
2. I want to be able to import data through ContactGenie into Check
Name
for
Contact #2. The 3rd will need to be manually inputed. The question is
can I
use Check Name for Contact #2 and then define a New Field called 2nd
Full
Name with the Type: Combination and then Format the Combination to use
2nd
First Name, 2nd Middle Name and 2nd Last Name.

I don't know how to explain it any better then that. And I don't
believe
this is a ContactGenie issue, otherwise I would ask them.


"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Chunnel

If this is a question intended for me (ContactGenie) - please forward
the
request to "support at contactgenie.com". This newsgroup is explicitly
and
exclusively for Outlook questions so any specific CG product questions
should be sent to the support email address. Aside from that, don't
exactly
understand the question or what you're trying to do:

On a generic note, there's no facility in Outlook or any import
process
that
I'm aware of that has a "one to many" contact link when importing so
on
the
surface the answer would be that whatever it is that you're looking to
do
is
not possible.

Karl
__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"chunnel" wrote in message
...
I am trying to add multiple Contacts within a Contact. Is it
possible
to
edit Check Full Name so that when I am importing data through
ContactGenie,
that I can have the 2nd and/or 3rd Contact Name not only show in the
proper
location but be editable through Check Full Name?