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  #1  
Old February 21st, 2008, 12:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.word,microsoft.public.word.general,microsoft.public.word.tables
jim
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Posts: 17
Default Can you figure this out?

I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please take a
look at the video of my problem at http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and
let me know if you have a solution to this. (The video file is WMV and
about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim



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  #2  
Old February 21st, 2008, 03:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.word,microsoft.public.word.general,microsoft.public.word.tables
Jan Groshan
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Posts: 62
Default Can you figure this out?

I don't have a clue why about your problem, but your video is impressive !


"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please take
a look at the video of my problem at http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp
and let me know if you have a solution to this. (The video file is WMV
and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim





  #3  
Old February 21st, 2008, 06:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.word,microsoft.public.word.general,microsoft.public.word.tables
Beth Melton
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Posts: 2,566
Default Can you figure this out?

I can't see your paragraph/formatting marks but I suspect the underlying
issue is due to where your floating tables are anchored. Since your document
doesn't appear to need to use floating tables I suspect once you set them to
inline the issue will be resolved. In the Table Properties (on the Layout
tab of the contextual Table Tools) try setting the Text wrapping to None.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton

What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please take
a look at the video of my problem at http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp
and let me know if you have a solution to this. (The video file is WMV
and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim





  #4  
Old February 21st, 2008, 08:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.word,microsoft.public.word.general,microsoft.public.word.tables
jim
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Posts: 17
Default Can you figure this out?

I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
I can't see your paragraph/formatting marks but I suspect the underlying
issue is due to where your floating tables are anchored. Since your
document doesn't appear to need to use floating tables I suspect once you
set them to inline the issue will be resolved. In the Table Properties (on
the Layout tab of the contextual Table Tools) try setting the Text wrapping
to None.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton

What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please
take a look at the video of my problem at
http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and let me know if you have a
solution to this. (The video file is WMV and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim







  #5  
Old February 21st, 2008, 08:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.word,microsoft.public.word.general,microsoft.public.word.tables
jim
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Posts: 17
Default Can you figure this out?

Thanks. It's Camtasia Studio. It makes making videos easy. You should
check it out.

There are free alternatives like Windows Media Encoder at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/default.mspx
and ScreenCoder at http://www.merage.uci.edu/~dvdotnet/screencoder.html amd
CamStudio which is open sourced and free at http://camstudio.org/.

I haven't tried the alternatives myself, but CamStudio looks pretty good.

jim


"Jan Groshan" wrote in message
...
I don't have a clue why about your problem, but your video is impressive !


"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of the
page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the strangest
(stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please
take a look at the video of my problem at
http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and let me know if you have a
solution to this. (The video file is WMV and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim







  #6  
Old February 21st, 2008, 09:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.word,microsoft.public.word.general,microsoft.public.word.tables
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Can you figure this out?

No, no, you *want* the text to wrap in the cells! On the Table tab of Table
Properties, you want to change "Text wrapping" from Around to None.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get
it and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
I can't see your paragraph/formatting marks but I suspect the underlying
issue is due to where your floating tables are anchored. Since your
document doesn't appear to need to use floating tables I suspect once you
set them to inline the issue will be resolved. In the Table Properties (on
the Layout tab of the contextual Table Tools) try setting the Text
wrapping to None.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton

What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I was trying to create a simple form with Word 2007. I placed several
tables on a page and then proceeded to delete a row from the top table.

Oddly enough, this caused another table to jump to the top portion of
the page and it would not be placed back into position. It's the
strangest (stupidest) thing I have ever seen in Word.

It's really hard to explain well without showing it to you, so please
take a look at the video of my problem at
http://www.mediafire.com/?bx1svd4zzjp and let me know if you have a
solution to this. (The video file is WMV and about 2.5 Mb.)

Thanks!

jim









  #7  
Old February 22nd, 2008, 03:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Bob Buckland ?:-\)
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Default Can you figure this out?

Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message . ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*


  #8  
Old February 22nd, 2008, 11:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
jim
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Posts: 17
Default Can you figure this out?

I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff
..

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*




  #9  
Old February 22nd, 2008, 12:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Stefan Blom
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Posts: 8,433
Default Can you figure this out?

For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*








  #10  
Old February 22nd, 2008, 01:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
jim
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Posts: 17
Default Can you figure this out?

That makes thing MUCH easier! But, you should also know that the
Positioning button is not enabled until you have dragged a table. Before
dragging a table the Positioning button is disabled - which doesn't make a
whole lot of sense to me.

Thanks Stefan!

BTW, is there a way to make this the default setting for Word?

jim

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
For each table, try this: Right-click the table, and choose Table
Properties
from the context menu. In the Table Properties dialog box, click the Table
tab. Click Positioning. Clear "Move with text" and "Allow overlap" and
click
OK. Click OK to close the Table Properties dialog.

Now you should be able to drag the tables as you wish.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"jim" wrote in message
.. .
I'm sorry but when I completely recretaed the document I overwrote the
old
name with the new document.

However, I was able to recreate a document with some of the same strange
behavior and you can download it from
http://www.mediafire.com/?0zmf4jfn9ff .

There are 3 tables on the document. Try moving the bottommost table as
close as possible to the middle table (without touching it) and it should
jump to the top portion of the page and be a real pain to drag back below
the other tables.

I can post a video of it if you like.

jim



"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote
in message ...
Hi Jim,

As you were able to post the video, do you have a link you can create to
the problem document? As Beth mentions, some of the
details aren't readily visible as to the document/table structure.

FWIW, of the three news/discussion groups listed in your message neither
microsoft.public.word
or microsoft.public.word.general
are carried on Microsoft's news server, news://msnews.microsoft.com

============
"jim" wrote in message
. ..
I right clicked on each table and removed text wrapping from the cell
attributes (the only place that I saw it), but the problem continues.

I don't think I put it in the video, but the tables also snap to the
edges
of the page when you get within some arbitrary distance, and I cannot
find
any settings to stop that behavior either.

Honestly, if I could find some really good form creation software I'd
get
it
and never, ever try this again with Word.

jim
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*










 




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