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Old July 31st, 2008, 04:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Font color won't change in header row of my Table style

One trick to getting & keeping stable tables is to avoid setting font
characteristics in a table style. Use paragraph styles instead. Many
technical documents have lots of tables that are quite different from each
other and that require a lot of manual formatting. Table styles are great
for quickly formatting them. But table style text settings tend to override
manual formatting and paragraph styles. (Or the conflicting setting confuse
Word.)

Your best bet is to start fresh. Clear all formatting and then apply the
unmodified table grid style. Create a new table style that is based on table
grid and that does not have text formatting specified (font, size, color,
horizontal alignment, etc.). Create your table paragraph styles. Three is
often enough: table heading, table text, and table bullet. Now apply your
new table style and table text paragraph style to the whole table, then
apply the table heading and bullet styles appropriately.

HTH,
PamC

C1ER wrote:
Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for
the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll
just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all your
help!

If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that
make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then

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help.
TIA!


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Old July 31st, 2008, 10:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Stefan Blom
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Default Font color won't change in header row of my Table style

Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than
changing the font properties for the table style.

And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText
approach that I described in a previous message.

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One trick to getting & keeping stable tables is to avoid setting font
characteristics in a table style. Use paragraph styles instead. Many
technical documents have lots of tables that are quite different from each
other and that require a lot of manual formatting. Table styles are great
for quickly formatting them. But table style text settings tend to
override
manual formatting and paragraph styles. (Or the conflicting setting
confuse
Word.)

Your best bet is to start fresh. Clear all formatting and then apply the
unmodified table grid style. Create a new table style that is based on
table
grid and that does not have text formatting specified (font, size, color,
horizontal alignment, etc.). Create your table paragraph styles. Three is
often enough: table heading, table text, and table bullet. Now apply your
new table style and table text paragraph style to the whole table, then
apply the table heading and bullet styles appropriately.

HTH,
PamC

C1ER wrote:
Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for
the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll
just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all
your
help!

If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does
that
make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and
then

[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
help.
TIA!


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Old July 31st, 2008, 06:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Klaus Linke
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Default Font color won't change in header row of my Table style

That's not the way I use table styles.
Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles
on top?

Regards,
Klaus


"Stefan Blom" wrote:
Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than
changing the font properties for the table style.

And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the
AutoText approach that I described in a previous message.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


  #14  
Old August 1st, 2008, 07:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Stefan Blom
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Default Font color won't change in header row of my Table style

I guess I'm saying that since table styles are there (you cannot get rid of
them since each table has one applied) you might as well apply the settings
that make sense (such as borders and shading) and leave the ones that don't
(paragraph and font formatting) to paragraph styles. Personally I don't work
them like that, however. Instead, I make use of AutoText if I need many
tables in a document, and I use paragraph styles to format cell contents
(see also the article at
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Klaus Linke" wrote in message
...
That's not the way I use table styles.
Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles
on top?

Regards,
Klaus


"Stefan Blom" wrote:
Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than
changing the font properties for the table style.

And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the
AutoText approach that I described in a previous message.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




  #15  
Old August 3rd, 2008, 07:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Font color won't change in header row of my Table style

I use table styles a great deal. I don't use auto text because I don't
create tables, I edit or format them. Usually no two tables are a like when
it comes to the number of columns and rows, column widths. and column
alignment.
When they were first introduced, I quickly abandoned tables styles when I
found that I could not have one column aligned on the decimal point without
affecting the alignment of other columns and that the table font could not
be made smaller than Normal (that may have changed--a lot of people fussed
about it and refused to use table styles because of it). Instead I created
paragraph styles for tables and manually applied setting to each one. Most of
the formatters I've met do the same thing.
About 10 months ago I read a book by Stephanie Krieger who recommended most
of the methods I now use with table styles. The very next week I amazed
myself with how quickly I got through about 20 tables from three different
proposals, four different excel files, and from various Word files where the
writers had gone wild with the colors and fonts. I had more time to look
at content issues in the tables. My client was also pleased. I carry with
me on my thumb drive a simple table style along with my editing add-on
templates. But usually I create a custom table style with the rest of the
template for a job.


Stefan Blom wrote:
I guess I'm saying that since table styles are there (you cannot get rid of
them since each table has one applied) you might as well apply the settings
that make sense (such as borders and shading) and leave the ones that don't
(paragraph and font formatting) to paragraph styles. Personally I don't work
them like that, however. Instead, I make use of AutoText if I need many
tables in a document, and I use paragraph styles to format cell contents
(see also the article at
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html).

That's not the way I use table styles.
Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles

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And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the
AutoText approach that I described in a previous message.


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