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Old September 29th, 2009, 11:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Diggsy
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Default Front End Linked tables

Hello,

I recently split my DB into a FE and BE. When I distributed the FE to the
users ....there was a complaint that they can't see the links between tables.
They were used to going directly to the table Entering the data and then
clicking the linked table and entering data into that table as well. I
noticed you can only do that by going into the BE DB. Is there a way to do
this on the FE as well

Thanks
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Old September 30th, 2009, 12:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Jeff Boyce
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Default Front End Linked tables

Although Access tables look a little like spreadsheets, having users
'mucking about' in the tables is a very good way to end up with very bad
data. Access tables store data, Access forms display data. Use the forms,
Luke!

I'm having trouble visualizing 'going directly to the table' then 'entering
data into [the link] table.

More information, please...

Regards

Jeff Boyce
Microsoft Office/Access MVP


"Diggsy" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I recently split my DB into a FE and BE. When I distributed the FE to the
users ....there was a complaint that they can't see the links between
tables.
They were used to going directly to the table Entering the data and then
clicking the linked table and entering data into that table as well. I
noticed you can only do that by going into the BE DB. Is there a way to do
this on the FE as well

Thanks



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Old September 30th, 2009, 12:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Gina Whipp
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Default Front End Linked tables

Diggsy,

Well, first thing let's get them UNused to that. You really don't want your
end-users doung anything in the tables. SOUNDS LIKE you have mapped your
FE-BE but it's not the same on everyone's machine.

I would suggest using UNC mapping. Now, if that is not your problem really
going to need more informatio.

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"Diggsy" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I recently split my DB into a FE and BE. When I distributed the FE to the
users ....there was a complaint that they can't see the links between
tables.
They were used to going directly to the table Entering the data and then
clicking the linked table and entering data into that table as well. I
noticed you can only do that by going into the BE DB. Is there a way to do
this on the FE as well

Thanks



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Old September 30th, 2009, 03:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
John W. Vinson
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Default Front End Linked tables

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:01:04 -0700, Diggsy
wrote:

Hello,

I recently split my DB into a FE and BE. When I distributed the FE to the
users ....there was a complaint that they can't see the links between tables.
They were used to going directly to the table Entering the data and then
clicking the linked table and entering data into that table as well. I
noticed you can only do that by going into the BE DB. Is there a way to do
this on the FE as well

Thanks


Then your frontend needs some more work!

They should - MUST, I'd say! - have Forms (a Form for the parent table, one or
more Subforms for the child tables), with appropriate textboxes, combo boxes,
and other data entry tools to make it both easier and more controllable to
enter data. They should NOT be editing tables at all, and *especially* not
entering foreign keys manually into child tables: shudder!!!
--

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Old September 30th, 2009, 03:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Diggsy
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Default Front End Linked tables

I Guess what I was trying to say that in the backend you can physically see
the linked connections by clicking the "+" in the table. By doing that it
will open data from a linked table that is connected to that primary key. In
the front end when you open the table it just shows that particular table
only. I guess this may be normal since the data is physically in the back end
and this could be resolved with Forms



"Gina Whipp" wrote:

Diggsy,

Well, first thing let's get them UNused to that. You really don't want your
end-users doung anything in the tables. SOUNDS LIKE you have mapped your
FE-BE but it's not the same on everyone's machine.

I would suggest using UNC mapping. Now, if that is not your problem really
going to need more informatio.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Diggsy" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I recently split my DB into a FE and BE. When I distributed the FE to the
users ....there was a complaint that they can't see the links between
tables.
They were used to going directly to the table Entering the data and then
clicking the linked table and entering data into that table as well. I
noticed you can only do that by going into the BE DB. Is there a way to do
this on the FE as well

Thanks




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Old September 30th, 2009, 04:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Gina Whipp
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Default Front End Linked tables

Diggsy,

Yes that is true BUT you can do form/subform scenario to achieve the same
thing.

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"Diggsy" wrote in message
...
I Guess what I was trying to say that in the backend you can physically see
the linked connections by clicking the "+" in the table. By doing that it
will open data from a linked table that is connected to that primary key.
In
the front end when you open the table it just shows that particular table
only. I guess this may be normal since the data is physically in the back
end
and this could be resolved with Forms



"Gina Whipp" wrote:

Diggsy,

Well, first thing let's get them UNused to that. You really don't want
your
end-users doung anything in the tables. SOUNDS LIKE you have mapped your
FE-BE but it's not the same on everyone's machine.

I would suggest using UNC mapping. Now, if that is not your problem
really
going to need more informatio.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Diggsy" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I recently split my DB into a FE and BE. When I distributed the FE to
the
users ....there was a complaint that they can't see the links between
tables.
They were used to going directly to the table Entering the data and
then
clicking the linked table and entering data into that table as well. I
noticed you can only do that by going into the BE DB. Is there a way to
do
this on the FE as well

Thanks






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Old September 30th, 2009, 10:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
PieterLinden via AccessMonster.com
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Default Front End Linked tables

John W. Vinson wrote:
Hello,

[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]

Thanks


Then your frontend needs some more work!

They should - MUST, I'd say! - have Forms (a Form for the parent table, one or
more Subforms for the child tables), with appropriate textboxes, combo boxes,
and other data entry tools to make it both easier and more controllable to
enter data. They should NOT be editing tables at all, and *especially* not
entering foreign keys manually into child tables: shudder!!!


And if you don't believe us, try summarizing your data (the whole reason it's
in the database to begin with, right?) if users enter data through tables,
not forms. BIG BIG mess. Been there, done that. If you really want to go
that route, stock up on tylenol, because you're gonna need it!

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Old October 4th, 2009, 06:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Tony Toews [MVP]
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Default Front End Linked tables

Diggsy wrote:

I Guess what I was trying to say that in the backend you can physically see
the linked connections by clicking the "+" in the table. By doing that it
will open data from a linked table that is connected to that primary key.


That's called subdatasheets. But as others have suggested we
strongly urge you to create forms and subforms.

Tony
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