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I’m looking to create, in my view, a complex database in Access 2007 and
would like your advice and views on my design plan. First I will explain what the database will be trying to achieve. It is going to be a database for a solicitors. At the moment we have regular clients and new clients all of the time. The current database stores the client’s details, the matter, court details, archive details etc in one table. Each time a client has a new matter their details are entered again in a different record and the new matter is opened. It also uses Access 2000. It isn’t the most user-friendly interface and therefore I am looking to create a new database with a new, user-friendly feel and look to it. My idea for the new database would be to have a Client ID for each client and then through this open the matter (thus saving typing all the clients information again). Client’s may have several matters at the same time and once the matter is finished it is given an archive number. The look of the database would be - the clients details (name etc) on the main view and then in a sub form, the clients matters (which unfinished files at the top). Then from the sub form you can access each individual matter which will bring up the matter details, court details etc. Is this possible? Here is how I think my tables would be (with the primary key placed at the top). UFN (Unique File Number) is given to each matter, this is how we reference our files. tbl_client_data Client ID Title Initials First Name Surname Date of Birth NI Number Contact No. Alt Contact No. E-mail Add Address City/Town Region Postcode tbl_matter_data UFN Client ID Case Code File Number Fee Earner Matter Notes tbl_at_police UFN DSCC Ref ISJ No. PS Name Date at PS PS Outcome Bail Conditions tbl_at_court UFN Court ID Case Title Case Number Outcome Bail Conditions Legal Aid No. tbl_appearance UFN Next Date Next Time Location Remand Status tbl_court _details Court ID Court Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cju_details CJU ID CJU Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cps_details CPS ID CPD Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_results UFN File Finished Date File Closed Archive Number Sentence Archived Do you think this is a good way to go? Any advice and guidance will be much appreciated. Sorry for the lengthy post, Andy. |
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"andycambo" u53471@uwe wrote in message news:99753837ba707@uwe...
I’m looking to create, in my view, a complex database in Access 2007 and would like your advice and views on my design plan. First I will explain what the database will be trying to achieve. It is going to be a database for a solicitors. At the moment we have regular clients and new clients all of the time. It looks OK to me Andy although I never have spaces in object or field names. Also I'd question the suitability of Access to store such sensitive data securely. Regards, Keith. www.keithwilby.co.uk |
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Hi,
it's very hard to tell if you're going the right way or not. Splitting the information in several tables with primary keys is already a good start. To start a new project I always make a thorough analysis first, and then call a meeting with the users to discuss the analysis and the way the application will work. To help me with the analysis I use the program "Enterprise architect" from Sparx systems. It is a cheap, but very good UML analyse tool you can download from the net. When they agree, I go on designing the table structure. To help you there, just lookup the papers about referential database structures and normalisation on the internet. I then start building the front end. I always design the application module by module, for instance: customer info module, court module and so on. This way the users can already start testing module 1 while I'm building module 2. Then the whole app is debugged and tested. Meanwhile I write the technical and user manual. After the final tests, the application is installed and a maintenance plan drawn up. Hope this gives you a picture of how to start a new project. -- Kind regards Noëlla "andycambo" wrote: I’m looking to create, in my view, a complex database in Access 2007 and would like your advice and views on my design plan. First I will explain what the database will be trying to achieve. It is going to be a database for a solicitors. At the moment we have regular clients and new clients all of the time. The current database stores the client’s details, the matter, court details, archive details etc in one table. Each time a client has a new matter their details are entered again in a different record and the new matter is opened. It also uses Access 2000. It isn’t the most user-friendly interface and therefore I am looking to create a new database with a new, user-friendly feel and look to it. My idea for the new database would be to have a Client ID for each client and then through this open the matter (thus saving typing all the clients information again). Client’s may have several matters at the same time and once the matter is finished it is given an archive number. The look of the database would be - the clients details (name etc) on the main view and then in a sub form, the clients matters (which unfinished files at the top). Then from the sub form you can access each individual matter which will bring up the matter details, court details etc. Is this possible? Here is how I think my tables would be (with the primary key placed at the top). UFN (Unique File Number) is given to each matter, this is how we reference our files. tbl_client_data Client ID Title Initials First Name Surname Date of Birth NI Number Contact No. Alt Contact No. E-mail Add Address City/Town Region Postcode tbl_matter_data UFN Client ID Case Code File Number Fee Earner Matter Notes tbl_at_police UFN DSCC Ref ISJ No. PS Name Date at PS PS Outcome Bail Conditions tbl_at_court UFN Court ID Case Title Case Number Outcome Bail Conditions Legal Aid No. tbl_appearance UFN Next Date Next Time Location Remand Status tbl_court _details Court ID Court Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cju_details CJU ID CJU Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cps_details CPS ID CPD Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_results UFN File Finished Date File Closed Archive Number Sentence Archived Do you think this is a good way to go? Any advice and guidance will be much appreciated. Sorry for the lengthy post, Andy. |
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Thanks for your reply Keith, I agree that Access most probably the ideal
solution to storing sensitive information but the program is available to use and solicitors pockets are tight so there isn't scope on other programs. NG wrote: Hi, ..... To help me with the analysis I use the program "Enterprise architect" from Sparx systems. It is a cheap, but very good UML analyse tool you can download from the net. Thanks for the heads-up on this program. I will have a look at this and see if it will be of use to me. Glad to hear I'm not too far off the track. I've been programming Java for 3 years so I know little bits about databases (second, third form etc) but never designed and created one. This is going to be a challenge. Thanks again for the advice, Andy. |
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IMHO "secure software" is an oxymoron, which would mean that "secure
software" is little different than Access. The wrong people (someone in the IT department, a smart hacker, a government employee with "authority" ) always have a way to get in. The only secure data is that which is not stored. When they get into the really heavy stuff, the only "barrier" relied on is lack of any interface or electronic connection through the perimeter. |
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Andy,
Having designed something similar to this I have a few suggestions... tblClientProfile cpClientID (PK:Autonumber) cpInternalClientID cpTitle cpInitials cpFirstName cpSurname cpDate of Birth cpNINumber (Not sure what this is and if it should stay in this tables) cpHomePhone cpCellPhone cpOfficePhone cpeMailAddress cpAddress1 cpAddress2 cpCityTown cpRegion cpPostalCode cpAttorneyID (FK) -You're going to need a table. Does more then one attorney get assinged per Client? tblMatters mMattersID (PK:Autonumber) mUFNID (PK) mClientID (FK) mCaseCode mFileNumber mFeeEarner mMatter mNotes mClosed tblAtPolice apMattersID (FK) apDSCCReference apISJNumber apPSName apDateAtPS apOutcome apBailConditions tblAtCourt acAtCourtID (PK:Autonumber) acMattersID (FK) acCourtID (FK) acCaseTitle acCaseNumber acOutcome acBailConditions acLegalAidNumber tblAppearance aAtCourtID (FK) aNextDate aNextTime aLocation aRemandStatus tblCourt cCourtID (PK:Autonumber) cCourt cAddressDX cCityTown cRegion cPostalCode cPhoneNumber cFaxNumber cCourtTypeID (FK:CJU, CPS) tblCourtType ctCourtTypeID (PK:Autonumber) ctCourtType tblResults rResultsID (PK) rMattersID (FK) rFileFinished rDateFileClosed rArchiveNumber rSentence There is probably a wee bit more clean-up but this should help. You are trying to create seperate tables for EVERYTHING when actually what you need to combine some tables, which I did in one case. To figure out your Business Model what you need to a tract a Dummy Case and wirte down what information you want from that case. (Like a Table of Contents in a book.) Then approach your tables. I also took away all wildcard characters and spaces... only causes extra typing and issues when coding. One reason I preface fields names with the first letter of the proper name of the table so that I don't end up with Reserved Words as my field names. You need to be careful with field names as you don't want to use Reserved Words, see... http://allenbrowne.com/Ap****ueBadWord.html Your main form should probably be Client Matters as this will be the one most accessed. To answer your questions, all items you brought up are doable as long as your tables are set-up properly. -- Gina Whipp "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors II http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm "andycambo" u53471@uwe wrote in message news:99753837ba707@uwe... I'm looking to create, in my view, a complex database in Access 2007 and would like your advice and views on my design plan. First I will explain what the database will be trying to achieve. It is going to be a database for a solicitors. At the moment we have regular clients and new clients all of the time. The current database stores the client's details, the matter, court details, archive details etc in one table. Each time a client has a new matter their details are entered again in a different record and the new matter is opened. It also uses Access 2000. It isn't the most user-friendly interface and therefore I am looking to create a new database with a new, user-friendly feel and look to it. My idea for the new database would be to have a Client ID for each client and then through this open the matter (thus saving typing all the clients information again). Client's may have several matters at the same time and once the matter is finished it is given an archive number. The look of the database would be - the clients details (name etc) on the main view and then in a sub form, the clients matters (which unfinished files at the top). Then from the sub form you can access each individual matter which will bring up the matter details, court details etc. Is this possible? Here is how I think my tables would be (with the primary key placed at the top). UFN (Unique File Number) is given to each matter, this is how we reference our files. tbl_client_data Client ID Title Initials First Name Surname Date of Birth NI Number Contact No. Alt Contact No. E-mail Add Address City/Town Region Postcode tbl_matter_data UFN Client ID Case Code File Number Fee Earner Matter Notes tbl_at_police UFN DSCC Ref ISJ No. PS Name Date at PS PS Outcome Bail Conditions tbl_at_court UFN Court ID Case Title Case Number Outcome Bail Conditions Legal Aid No. tbl_appearance UFN Next Date Next Time Location Remand Status tbl_court _details Court ID Court Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cju_details CJU ID CJU Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cps_details CPS ID CPD Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_results UFN File Finished Date File Closed Archive Number Sentence Archived Do you think this is a good way to go? Any advice and guidance will be much appreciated. Sorry for the lengthy post, Andy. |
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I like how you named each field...I have never thought about that, but it
makes very good sense. Del "Gina Whipp" wrote: Andy, Having designed something similar to this I have a few suggestions... tblClientProfile cpClientID (PK:Autonumber) cpInternalClientID cpTitle cpInitials cpFirstName cpSurname cpDate of Birth cpNINumber (Not sure what this is and if it should stay in this tables) cpHomePhone cpCellPhone cpOfficePhone cpeMailAddress cpAddress1 cpAddress2 cpCityTown cpRegion cpPostalCode cpAttorneyID (FK) -You're going to need a table. Does more then one attorney get assinged per Client? tblMatters mMattersID (PK:Autonumber) mUFNID (PK) mClientID (FK) mCaseCode mFileNumber mFeeEarner mMatter mNotes mClosed tblAtPolice apMattersID (FK) apDSCCReference apISJNumber apPSName apDateAtPS apOutcome apBailConditions tblAtCourt acAtCourtID (PK:Autonumber) acMattersID (FK) acCourtID (FK) acCaseTitle acCaseNumber acOutcome acBailConditions acLegalAidNumber tblAppearance aAtCourtID (FK) aNextDate aNextTime aLocation aRemandStatus tblCourt cCourtID (PK:Autonumber) cCourt cAddressDX cCityTown cRegion cPostalCode cPhoneNumber cFaxNumber cCourtTypeID (FK:CJU, CPS) tblCourtType ctCourtTypeID (PK:Autonumber) ctCourtType tblResults rResultsID (PK) rMattersID (FK) rFileFinished rDateFileClosed rArchiveNumber rSentence There is probably a wee bit more clean-up but this should help. You are trying to create seperate tables for EVERYTHING when actually what you need to combine some tables, which I did in one case. To figure out your Business Model what you need to a tract a Dummy Case and wirte down what information you want from that case. (Like a Table of Contents in a book.) Then approach your tables. I also took away all wildcard characters and spaces... only causes extra typing and issues when coding. One reason I preface fields names with the first letter of the proper name of the table so that I don't end up with Reserved Words as my field names. You need to be careful with field names as you don't want to use Reserved Words, see... http://allenbrowne.com/Ap****ueBadWord.html Your main form should probably be Client Matters as this will be the one most accessed. To answer your questions, all items you brought up are doable as long as your tables are set-up properly. -- Gina Whipp "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors II http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm "andycambo" u53471@uwe wrote in message news:99753837ba707@uwe... I'm looking to create, in my view, a complex database in Access 2007 and would like your advice and views on my design plan. First I will explain what the database will be trying to achieve. It is going to be a database for a solicitors. At the moment we have regular clients and new clients all of the time. The current database stores the client's details, the matter, court details, archive details etc in one table. Each time a client has a new matter their details are entered again in a different record and the new matter is opened. It also uses Access 2000. It isn't the most user-friendly interface and therefore I am looking to create a new database with a new, user-friendly feel and look to it. My idea for the new database would be to have a Client ID for each client and then through this open the matter (thus saving typing all the clients information again). Client's may have several matters at the same time and once the matter is finished it is given an archive number. The look of the database would be - the clients details (name etc) on the main view and then in a sub form, the clients matters (which unfinished files at the top). Then from the sub form you can access each individual matter which will bring up the matter details, court details etc. Is this possible? Here is how I think my tables would be (with the primary key placed at the top). UFN (Unique File Number) is given to each matter, this is how we reference our files. tbl_client_data Client ID Title Initials First Name Surname Date of Birth NI Number Contact No. Alt Contact No. E-mail Add Address City/Town Region Postcode tbl_matter_data UFN Client ID Case Code File Number Fee Earner Matter Notes tbl_at_police UFN DSCC Ref ISJ No. PS Name Date at PS PS Outcome Bail Conditions tbl_at_court UFN Court ID Case Title Case Number Outcome Bail Conditions Legal Aid No. tbl_appearance UFN Next Date Next Time Location Remand Status tbl_court _details Court ID Court Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cju_details CJU ID CJU Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cps_details CPS ID CPD Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_results UFN File Finished Date File Closed Archive Number Sentence Archived Do you think this is a good way to go? Any advice and guidance will be much appreciated. Sorry for the lengthy post, Andy. |
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Del,
Thanks... -- Gina Whipp "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors II http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm "DUNNER7" wrote in message ... I like how you named each field...I have never thought about that, but it makes very good sense. Del "Gina Whipp" wrote: Andy, Having designed something similar to this I have a few suggestions... tblClientProfile cpClientID (PK:Autonumber) cpInternalClientID cpTitle cpInitials cpFirstName cpSurname cpDate of Birth cpNINumber (Not sure what this is and if it should stay in this tables) cpHomePhone cpCellPhone cpOfficePhone cpeMailAddress cpAddress1 cpAddress2 cpCityTown cpRegion cpPostalCode cpAttorneyID (FK) -You're going to need a table. Does more then one attorney get assinged per Client? tblMatters mMattersID (PK:Autonumber) mUFNID (PK) mClientID (FK) mCaseCode mFileNumber mFeeEarner mMatter mNotes mClosed tblAtPolice apMattersID (FK) apDSCCReference apISJNumber apPSName apDateAtPS apOutcome apBailConditions tblAtCourt acAtCourtID (PK:Autonumber) acMattersID (FK) acCourtID (FK) acCaseTitle acCaseNumber acOutcome acBailConditions acLegalAidNumber tblAppearance aAtCourtID (FK) aNextDate aNextTime aLocation aRemandStatus tblCourt cCourtID (PK:Autonumber) cCourt cAddressDX cCityTown cRegion cPostalCode cPhoneNumber cFaxNumber cCourtTypeID (FK:CJU, CPS) tblCourtType ctCourtTypeID (PK:Autonumber) ctCourtType tblResults rResultsID (PK) rMattersID (FK) rFileFinished rDateFileClosed rArchiveNumber rSentence There is probably a wee bit more clean-up but this should help. You are trying to create seperate tables for EVERYTHING when actually what you need to combine some tables, which I did in one case. To figure out your Business Model what you need to a tract a Dummy Case and wirte down what information you want from that case. (Like a Table of Contents in a book.) Then approach your tables. I also took away all wildcard characters and spaces... only causes extra typing and issues when coding. One reason I preface fields names with the first letter of the proper name of the table so that I don't end up with Reserved Words as my field names. You need to be careful with field names as you don't want to use Reserved Words, see... http://allenbrowne.com/Ap****ueBadWord.html Your main form should probably be Client Matters as this will be the one most accessed. To answer your questions, all items you brought up are doable as long as your tables are set-up properly. -- Gina Whipp "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors II http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm "andycambo" u53471@uwe wrote in message news:99753837ba707@uwe... I'm looking to create, in my view, a complex database in Access 2007 and would like your advice and views on my design plan. First I will explain what the database will be trying to achieve. It is going to be a database for a solicitors. At the moment we have regular clients and new clients all of the time. The current database stores the client's details, the matter, court details, archive details etc in one table. Each time a client has a new matter their details are entered again in a different record and the new matter is opened. It also uses Access 2000. It isn't the most user-friendly interface and therefore I am looking to create a new database with a new, user-friendly feel and look to it. My idea for the new database would be to have a Client ID for each client and then through this open the matter (thus saving typing all the clients information again). Client's may have several matters at the same time and once the matter is finished it is given an archive number. The look of the database would be - the clients details (name etc) on the main view and then in a sub form, the clients matters (which unfinished files at the top). Then from the sub form you can access each individual matter which will bring up the matter details, court details etc. Is this possible? Here is how I think my tables would be (with the primary key placed at the top). UFN (Unique File Number) is given to each matter, this is how we reference our files. tbl_client_data Client ID Title Initials First Name Surname Date of Birth NI Number Contact No. Alt Contact No. E-mail Add Address City/Town Region Postcode tbl_matter_data UFN Client ID Case Code File Number Fee Earner Matter Notes tbl_at_police UFN DSCC Ref ISJ No. PS Name Date at PS PS Outcome Bail Conditions tbl_at_court UFN Court ID Case Title Case Number Outcome Bail Conditions Legal Aid No. tbl_appearance UFN Next Date Next Time Location Remand Status tbl_court _details Court ID Court Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cju_details CJU ID CJU Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_cps_details CPS ID CPD Name Address/DX City/Town Region Postcode Contact No. Fax No. tbl_results UFN File Finished Date File Closed Archive Number Sentence Archived Do you think this is a good way to go? Any advice and guidance will be much appreciated. Sorry for the lengthy post, Andy. |
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Gina Whipp wrote:
Andy, Having designed something similar to this I have a few suggestions... Thanks for all your replies so far. Thanks Gina for your reply. I’ve been through my tables again and re- organised them. Your tables were a lot of help so thank-you. Here are my latest tables: tblClientProfile cpClientID (PK:Autonumber) cpInternalClientID cpTitle cpInitials cpFirstName cpSurname cpDateOfBirth cpNINumber cpHomePhone cpMobilePhone cpeMailAddress cpAddress1 cpAddress2 cpCityTown cpRegion cpPostalCode cpFeeEarnerID (FK) tblMatters mMatterID (PK:Autonumber) mUFNID (PK) mClientID(FK) mFileNumber mCaseCode mNotes mClosed mMatter tblAtPolice apMatterID (FK) apDSCCReference apISJNumber apPSName apDateAtPS apOutcome apBailConditions tblAtCourt acMatterID (FK) acCourtID (FK) acCaseTitle acCaseNumber acOutcome acBailConditions acLegalAidNumber tblAppearance aMatterID (FK) aNextDate aNextTime aLocation aRemandStatus tblCourt cCourtID (PK:Autonumber) cCourtName cAddress/DX cCity/Town cRegion cPostcode cContact No. cFax No. cCourtTypeID tblCourtType ctCourtTypeID (PK:Autonumber) ctCourtType tblResults rResultsID (PK:Autonumber) rMatterID (FK) rFileFinished rDateFileClosed rArchiveNumber rSentence tblFeeEarners fFeeEarnerID(PK:Autonumber) fFeeEarnerName fFeeEarnerNumber I’ve made a few changes from what you suggested. One thing I have changed is on the AtCourt table. On the table you suggested that I should use a AtCourtID, I’m not sure what the use of this key would be. I’ve also changed the key in the Appearance table to MatterID rather than AtCourtID. I’ll explain why I have done this so maybe you could tell me if I’m right or wrong to do this. What sometimes happens is, we will first see the client at a police station and advise them. A file will then be opened on the database. The client can then be bailed several times for the matter (hence the appearance table being changed). If the client is charged then the matter will then go onto court, which is the reason I thought that the AtCourtID would be pretty useless in this case, however sometimes a case can go straight to court. Would a AtCourtID be any use? Thanks Andy. -- Message posted via AccessMonster.com http://www.accessmonster.com/Uwe/For...esign/200907/1 |
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Andy,
From what you posted you were correct in changing the tblAtCourt. My ideas were only meant to assist you not *tell* you! In tblCourt you still want to get rid the */* and the spaces and the *.* Remember, you are only causing yourself extra typing. Other than that all looks good! tblCourt cCourtID (PK:Autonumber) cCourtName cAddress/DX cCity/Town cRegion cPostcode cContact No. cFax No. cCourtTypeID You're welcome... Gina Whipp "I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors II http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm "andycambo via AccessMonster.com" u53471@uwe wrote in message news:997fed83525bf@uwe... Gina Whipp wrote: Andy, Having designed something similar to this I have a few suggestions... Thanks for all your replies so far. Thanks Gina for your reply. I've been through my tables again and re- organised them. Your tables were a lot of help so thank-you. Here are my latest tables: tblClientProfile cpClientID (PK:Autonumber) cpInternalClientID cpTitle cpInitials cpFirstName cpSurname cpDateOfBirth cpNINumber cpHomePhone cpMobilePhone cpeMailAddress cpAddress1 cpAddress2 cpCityTown cpRegion cpPostalCode cpFeeEarnerID (FK) tblMatters mMatterID (PK:Autonumber) mUFNID (PK) mClientID(FK) mFileNumber mCaseCode mNotes mClosed mMatter tblAtPolice apMatterID (FK) apDSCCReference apISJNumber apPSName apDateAtPS apOutcome apBailConditions tblAtCourt acMatterID (FK) acCourtID (FK) acCaseTitle acCaseNumber acOutcome acBailConditions acLegalAidNumber tblAppearance aMatterID (FK) aNextDate aNextTime aLocation aRemandStatus tblCourt cCourtID (PK:Autonumber) cCourtName cAddress/DX cCity/Town cRegion cPostcode cContact No. cFax No. cCourtTypeID tblCourtType ctCourtTypeID (PK:Autonumber) ctCourtType tblResults rResultsID (PK:Autonumber) rMatterID (FK) rFileFinished rDateFileClosed rArchiveNumber rSentence tblFeeEarners fFeeEarnerID(PK:Autonumber) fFeeEarnerName fFeeEarnerNumber I've made a few changes from what you suggested. One thing I have changed is on the AtCourt table. On the table you suggested that I should use a AtCourtID, I'm not sure what the use of this key would be. I've also changed the key in the Appearance table to MatterID rather than AtCourtID. I'll explain why I have done this so maybe you could tell me if I'm right or wrong to do this. What sometimes happens is, we will first see the client at a police station and advise them. A file will then be opened on the database. The client can then be bailed several times for the matter (hence the appearance table being changed). If the client is charged then the matter will then go onto court, which is the reason I thought that the AtCourtID would be pretty useless in this case, however sometimes a case can go straight to court. Would a AtCourtID be any use? Thanks Andy. -- Message posted via AccessMonster.com http://www.accessmonster.com/Uwe/For...esign/200907/1 |
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