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August 28th, 2009, 06:11 PM
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insert picture or text box across 2 columns WITHOUT column line
I do a newsletter using 2 columns with a line in between.
I would like to place a picture in the center of the page. I have it formatted with text wrap close. The line dividing the columns goes down the middle of the picture (or text box). It does not matter if I say put to front or put to back. How can I make the line NOT be over the picture, but be on the rest of the page? -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff 
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August 28th, 2009, 07:08 PM
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insert picture or text box across 2 columns WITHOUT column line
There are 2 things I would try:
1. Set the text wrapping for the picture to "In front of text" - this is not setting the order, but part of Format Picture 2. If you are using a drawing object for the column line, make sure it is set to text wrap "behind text" , and also be sure to set it's order to "Send to the back" "Art Nittskoff" wrote: I do a newsletter using 2 columns with a line in between. I would like to place a picture in the center of the page. I have it formatted with text wrap close. The line dividing the columns goes down the middle of the picture (or text box). It does not matter if I say put to front or put to back. How can I make the line NOT be over the picture, but be on the rest of the page? -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff
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August 28th, 2009, 08:49 PM
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insert picture or text box across 2 columns WITHOUT column lin
I tried setting to "In front of text" and that covers the line..but it also
covers the text in the 2 columns. I have the line put in automatically in the "page layout - columns" option, put a line in. You did give me an idea, maybe I will just draw a line manually...but that is harder, I figure that has to be a way to do this. -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff "Williamroy" wrote: There are 2 things I would try: 1. Set the text wrapping for the picture to "In front of text" - this is not setting the order, but part of Format Picture 2. If you are using a drawing object for the column line, make sure it is set to text wrap "behind text" , and also be sure to set it's order to "Send to the back" "Art Nittskoff" wrote: I do a newsletter using 2 columns with a line in between. I would like to place a picture in the center of the page. I have it formatted with text wrap close. The line dividing the columns goes down the middle of the picture (or text box). It does not matter if I say put to front or put to back. How can I make the line NOT be over the picture, but be on the rest of the page? -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff
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August 28th, 2009, 09:24 PM
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insert picture or text box across 2 columns WITHOUT column lin
Set the picture's wrapping to Top & Bottom, Square or Tight.
HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 8/28/09 3:49 PM, in article , "Art Nittskoff" wrote: I tried setting to "In front of text" and that covers the line..but it also covers the text in the 2 columns. I have the line put in automatically in the "page layout - columns" option, put a line in. You did give me an idea, maybe I will just draw a line manually...but that is harder, I figure that has to be a way to do this.
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August 28th, 2009, 09:40 PM
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The column divide line still goes down thru the middle of the picture, even
if I change it to top or bottom, or square or tight. -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff "CyberTaz" wrote: Set the picture's wrapping to Top & Bottom, Square or Tight. HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 8/28/09 3:49 PM, in article , "Art Nittskoff" wrote: I tried setting to "In front of text" and that covers the line..but it also covers the text in the 2 columns. I have the line put in automatically in the "page layout - columns" option, put a line in. You did give me an idea, maybe I will just draw a line manually...but that is harder, I figure that has to be a way to do this.
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August 29th, 2009, 12:09 AM
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insert picture or text box across 2 columns WITHOUT column lin
Are you referring to a *picture* or a text box? You've used both terms but
they are *not* the same thing. If you're actually dealing with a text box you need to apply a [white?] Fill. Text boxes have no Fill by default which would explain why the Column separator line is showing through. If it actually is a picture, exactly what type of "picture" is it? Is it positioned in a Header/Footer? Please be as explicit as you can about what it is & where it is. No offense -- I'm not saying you aren't seeing what you're seeing -- but what you're describing is virtually impossible unless (a) there is something you're not disclosing (such as a transparency issue) or (b) there is something seriously wrong. The separator line between columns is a part of the text body component of the document, whereas floating graphic objects are not. Floating graphics are in a separate "layer" of the document, either beneath [Headers/Footers] or in front of the text layer. All text wrapping options except Behind Text & Through make the object float atop (or in front of) the text layer. Also, what version of Word are you using & where did the picture come from? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 8/28/09 4:40 PM, in article , "Art Nittskoff" wrote: The column divide line still goes down thru the middle of the picture, even if I change it to top or bottom, or square or tight.
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#8
August 29th, 2009, 05:26 PM
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I think the problem is with the Tight wrap. If you set the wrapping to In
Front of Text, you would not see the line, but you also wouldn't be able to wrap the text tightly around the picture. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Art Nittskoff" wrote in message ... Bob, I will try to give you as many details as I can. I have tried this with a picture (jpg) and a text box and the results are the same. I am using office 2007 I get the picture from my hard drive. I hit insert picture, click on the one I want, and it inserts it. To get that line I am talking about, I go to page layout, columns and check the line between box. Then I right click it and hit format. I click text wrap and then hit tight. If I put the picture in the middle of the two colums, it shows the column dividing line thru the middle. Just in case this was only a screen issue, I also printed it and the line is there. I have never adjusted transparency (nor do I know how), so I do not know if that is an issue. I sure appreciate all the help. If it helps, I can email you the file. You can email me at and tell me where to send it. -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff "CyberTaz" wrote: Are you referring to a *picture* or a text box? You've used both terms but they are *not* the same thing. If you're actually dealing with a text box you need to apply a [white?] Fill. Text boxes have no Fill by default which would explain why the Column separator line is showing through. If it actually is a picture, exactly what type of "picture" is it? Is it positioned in a Header/Footer? Please be as explicit as you can about what it is & where it is. No offense -- I'm not saying you aren't seeing what you're seeing -- but what you're describing is virtually impossible unless (a) there is something you're not disclosing (such as a transparency issue) or (b) there is something seriously wrong. The separator line between columns is a part of the text body component of the document, whereas floating graphic objects are not. Floating graphics are in a separate "layer" of the document, either beneath [Headers/Footers] or in front of the text layer. All text wrapping options except Behind Text & Through make the object float atop (or in front of) the text layer. Also, what version of Word are you using & where did the picture come from? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 8/28/09 4:40 PM, in article , "Art Nittskoff" wrote: The column divide line still goes down thru the middle of the picture, even if I change it to top or bottom, or square or tight.
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#9
August 29th, 2009, 05:40 PM
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I have tried all the different wraps. I really need the tight wrap. Is this a
bug in the program? -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I think the problem is with the Tight wrap. If you set the wrapping to In Front of Text, you would not see the line, but you also wouldn't be able to wrap the text tightly around the picture. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Art Nittskoff" wrote in message ... Bob, I will try to give you as many details as I can. I have tried this with a picture (jpg) and a text box and the results are the same. I am using office 2007 I get the picture from my hard drive. I hit insert picture, click on the one I want, and it inserts it. To get that line I am talking about, I go to page layout, columns and check the line between box. Then I right click it and hit format. I click text wrap and then hit tight. If I put the picture in the middle of the two colums, it shows the column dividing line thru the middle. Just in case this was only a screen issue, I also printed it and the line is there. I have never adjusted transparency (nor do I know how), so I do not know if that is an issue. I sure appreciate all the help. If it helps, I can email you the file. You can email me at and tell me where to send it. -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff "CyberTaz" wrote: Are you referring to a *picture* or a text box? You've used both terms but they are *not* the same thing. If you're actually dealing with a text box you need to apply a [white?] Fill. Text boxes have no Fill by default which would explain why the Column separator line is showing through. If it actually is a picture, exactly what type of "picture" is it? Is it positioned in a Header/Footer? Please be as explicit as you can about what it is & where it is. No offense -- I'm not saying you aren't seeing what you're seeing -- but what you're describing is virtually impossible unless (a) there is something you're not disclosing (such as a transparency issue) or (b) there is something seriously wrong. The separator line between columns is a part of the text body component of the document, whereas floating graphic objects are not. Floating graphics are in a separate "layer" of the document, either beneath [Headers/Footers] or in front of the text layer. All text wrapping options except Behind Text & Through make the object float atop (or in front of) the text layer. Also, what version of Word are you using & where did the picture come from? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 8/28/09 4:40 PM, in article , "Art Nittskoff" wrote: The column divide line still goes down thru the middle of the picture, even if I change it to top or bottom, or square or tight.
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#10
August 29th, 2009, 06:24 PM
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Not a bug, exactly, just behavior "by design," I suppose. Would you consider
eliminating the line between columns? Is it really necessary? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Art Nittskoff" wrote in message ... I have tried all the different wraps. I really need the tight wrap. Is this a bug in the program? -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I think the problem is with the Tight wrap. If you set the wrapping to In Front of Text, you would not see the line, but you also wouldn't be able to wrap the text tightly around the picture. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Art Nittskoff" wrote in message ... Bob, I will try to give you as many details as I can. I have tried this with a picture (jpg) and a text box and the results are the same. I am using office 2007 I get the picture from my hard drive. I hit insert picture, click on the one I want, and it inserts it. To get that line I am talking about, I go to page layout, columns and check the line between box. Then I right click it and hit format. I click text wrap and then hit tight. If I put the picture in the middle of the two colums, it shows the column dividing line thru the middle. Just in case this was only a screen issue, I also printed it and the line is there. I have never adjusted transparency (nor do I know how), so I do not know if that is an issue. I sure appreciate all the help. If it helps, I can email you the file. You can email me at and tell me where to send it. -- Thanks Very Much! Art Nittskoff "CyberTaz" wrote: Are you referring to a *picture* or a text box? You've used both terms but they are *not* the same thing. If you're actually dealing with a text box you need to apply a [white?] Fill. Text boxes have no Fill by default which would explain why the Column separator line is showing through. If it actually is a picture, exactly what type of "picture" is it? Is it positioned in a Header/Footer? Please be as explicit as you can about what it is & where it is. No offense -- I'm not saying you aren't seeing what you're seeing -- but what you're describing is virtually impossible unless (a) there is something you're not disclosing (such as a transparency issue) or (b) there is something seriously wrong. The separator line between columns is a part of the text body component of the document, whereas floating graphic objects are not. Floating graphics are in a separate "layer" of the document, either beneath [Headers/Footers] or in front of the text layer. All text wrapping options except Behind Text & Through make the object float atop (or in front of) the text layer. Also, what version of Word are you using & where did the picture come from? Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 8/28/09 4:40 PM, in article , "Art Nittskoff" wrote: The column divide line still goes down thru the middle of the picture, even if I change it to top or bottom, or square or tight.
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