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November 27th, 2005, 08:58 PM
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Templates and Styles
I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it
correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. 
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November 27th, 2005, 10:26 PM
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin"
wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 27th, 2005, 11:15 PM
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Templates and Styles
Note that it generally a _bad_ idea to leave the option to update styles
from the template checked. You won't like what happens if you do. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 28th, 2005, 06:29 AM
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Are you sure? What's the point of the checkbox under Tools | Templates and
Add-Ins... | Templates tab | "Automatically update document styles check" box. Isn't that exactly what that does? It's worked for me in the past. - Colin "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 28th, 2005, 06:30 AM
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Can you elaborate on, "You won't like what happens you do." What would
happen? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... Note that it generally a _bad_ idea to leave the option to update styles from the template checked. You won't like what happens if you do. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 28th, 2005, 07:06 AM
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Jay said "unless you take further action," and the articles he referenced do
explain this. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "WebColin" wrote in message ... Are you sure? What's the point of the checkbox under Tools | Templates and Add-Ins... | Templates tab | "Automatically update document styles check" box. Isn't that exactly what that does? It's worked for me in the past. - Colin "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 28th, 2005, 02:35 PM
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Templates and Styles
If Word can't find your template, it will update your styles to those in
normal.dot. When you move it to a different computer this will happen. The results are seldom predicted or desirable. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "WebColin" wrote in message ... Can you elaborate on, "You won't like what happens you do." What would happen? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... Note that it generally a _bad_ idea to leave the option to update styles from the template checked. You won't like what happens if you do. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 28th, 2005, 04:18 PM
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OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. For now, I'm just working
on my own computer. I'm not sure I'll ever share the template, but it's sure good to know. In general, I push docs to uneditable PDF's when I'm ready to distribute them. If that box is unchecked, can a document be distributed as a Word doc without being mangled on other machines (assuming at least that they have the same version of Word)? What about between Mac and PC, how good are those conversions and what happens to OLE objects (I guess that's getting a little off-topic, but I'm eager to learn)? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... If Word can't find your template, it will update your styles to those in normal.dot. When you move it to a different computer this will happen. The results are seldom predicted or desirable. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "WebColin" wrote in message ... Can you elaborate on, "You won't like what happens you do." What would happen? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... Note that it generally a _bad_ idea to leave the option to update styles from the template checked. You won't like what happens if you do. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 28th, 2005, 07:40 PM
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There really isn't a conversion as such between Intel and Mac machines, the
Word programs on each read each other's files, assuming they can read the disk. The Word file format is the same (as of Word 97). With the box unchecked, a Word document will be "mangled" less. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TextReflow.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "WebColin" wrote in message ... OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. For now, I'm just working on my own computer. I'm not sure I'll ever share the template, but it's sure good to know. In general, I push docs to uneditable PDF's when I'm ready to distribute them. If that box is unchecked, can a document be distributed as a Word doc without being mangled on other machines (assuming at least that they have the same version of Word)? What about between Mac and PC, how good are those conversions and what happens to OLE objects (I guess that's getting a little off-topic, but I'm eager to learn)? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... If Word can't find your template, it will update your styles to those in normal.dot. When you move it to a different computer this will happen. The results are seldom predicted or desirable. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "WebColin" wrote in message ... Can you elaborate on, "You won't like what happens you do." What would happen? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... Note that it generally a _bad_ idea to leave the option to update styles from the template checked. You won't like what happens if you do. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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November 28th, 2005, 07:57 PM
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So I guess the Mac will choke on anything with an OLE object, since Mac's
don't support that all. Similarly, Windows computers will choke on Mac Word docs with embedded PS. Is that right? Read the disk? I've not seen a floppy drive on a new Mac this millennium. :-) I think most file exchanges are via a-mail or network shares, with some by CD (and, by default, Mac and Windows use the same format for CD's). Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... There really isn't a conversion as such between Intel and Mac machines, the Word programs on each read each other's files, assuming they can read the disk. The Word file format is the same (as of Word 97). With the box unchecked, a Word document will be "mangled" less. See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TextReflow.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "WebColin" wrote in message ... OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. For now, I'm just working on my own computer. I'm not sure I'll ever share the template, but it's sure good to know. In general, I push docs to uneditable PDF's when I'm ready to distribute them. If that box is unchecked, can a document be distributed as a Word doc without being mangled on other machines (assuming at least that they have the same version of Word)? What about between Mac and PC, how good are those conversions and what happens to OLE objects (I guess that's getting a little off-topic, but I'm eager to learn)? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... If Word can't find your template, it will update your styles to those in normal.dot. When you move it to a different computer this will happen. The results are seldom predicted or desirable. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "WebColin" wrote in message ... Can you elaborate on, "You won't like what happens you do." What would happen? Thanks, Colin "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... Note that it generally a _bad_ idea to leave the option to update styles from the template checked. You won't like what happens if you do. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:12 -0500, "WebColin" wrote: I have a document based on a template I created. In document properties, it correctly shows my template. I thought that as I'd been making style changes in the template, they also showed up in the document based on that template, but now I'm not sure. Certainly, now, as I make changes to styles in the Template, they are not appearing in the document based on that template. Is there any way I can be sure that the document accurately reflects the styles of its template? Thanks, Colin Word 2003, Windows XP, latest updates and SP's to all. Hi Colin, Changes you make in a template's styles *never* have any effect in existing documents unless you take further action. Here are some articles that explain what you're seeing and what you need to do: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/temp...ons/index.html http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/atta...ate/index.html, the "Styles" section 2/3 down the page http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/MacrosVBA/UpdateStyles.htm -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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