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Old December 26th, 2005, 06:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an inch and a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It looked great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I find that one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might be wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have the same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table? Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing to sit beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have something to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd
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Old December 26th, 2005, 07:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

Click on the Show/Hide ¶ button to hide the ¶.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an inch and a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It looked great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I find that one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might be wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have the same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table? Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing to sit
beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have something
to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd



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Old December 26th, 2005, 08:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

Doug, I must not have made my meaning clear. I don't need to make it
invisible, I want to get rid of it. The material coming after it should be
part of the same paragraph. But when I put the cursor on it and press Delete,
nothing happens!
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Click on the Show/Hide ¶ button to hide the ¶.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an inch and a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It looked great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I find that one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might be wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have the same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table? Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing to sit
beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have something
to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd




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Old December 26th, 2005, 09:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

What happens if you select the following material and drag it into the
position immediately before the ¶?

To get the table where you want it, you may then have to place the selection
inside the table and hover the mouse over the table until the square box
with the direction arrows appears at the top left of the table then left
click and drag on that box to move the table where you want it.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Doug, I must not have made my meaning clear. I don't need to make it
invisible, I want to get rid of it. The material coming after it should be
part of the same paragraph. But when I put the cursor on it and press
Delete,
nothing happens!
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Click on the Show/Hide ¶ button to hide the ¶.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an inch and
a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It looked
great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I find that
one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might be wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have the same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table? Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing to sit
beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have
something
to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd






  #5  
Old December 26th, 2005, 08:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

Well, your guess was on the right track - when I select the material just
after the pilcrow, but not including the table, then the table is
highlighted, too. No doubt it's attached to the pilcrow somehow, and the
reason Word won't delete the pilcrow (carriage return) is that it's trying to
protect me from deleting the table inadvertently?

On the other hand, I can drag the table further down the page, and then THAT
pilcrow - at least I thinks it was the same one since it was in the same
place - does delete okay. But then another pilcrow some distance above the
table refuses to delete.

I know about the little square box with arrows at the upper left of the
table - as I begin to recall, that's how I got the table into what was (for a
time) the correct position in the first place, without any real understanding
of what I was doing, however...

What next?
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

What happens if you select the following material and drag it into the
position immediately before the ¶?

To get the table where you want it, you may then have to place the selection
inside the table and hover the mouse over the table until the square box
with the direction arrows appears at the top left of the table then left
click and drag on that box to move the table where you want it.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Doug, I must not have made my meaning clear. I don't need to make it
invisible, I want to get rid of it. The material coming after it should be
part of the same paragraph. But when I put the cursor on it and press
Delete,
nothing happens!
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Click on the Show/Hide ¶ button to hide the ¶.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an inch and
a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It looked
great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I find that
one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might be wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have the same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table? Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing to sit
beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have
something
to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd






  #6  
Old December 27th, 2005, 05:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

If you've dragged the table by its handle, it's wrapped and requires a text
paragraph to be anchored to. If it's at the end of a document, it must be
followed by a paragraph mark even if inline.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Well, your guess was on the right track - when I select the material just
after the pilcrow, but not including the table, then the table is
highlighted, too. No doubt it's attached to the pilcrow somehow, and the
reason Word won't delete the pilcrow (carriage return) is that it's trying

to
protect me from deleting the table inadvertently?

On the other hand, I can drag the table further down the page, and then

THAT
pilcrow - at least I thinks it was the same one since it was in the same
place - does delete okay. But then another pilcrow some distance above the
table refuses to delete.

I know about the little square box with arrows at the upper left of the
table - as I begin to recall, that's how I got the table into what was

(for a
time) the correct position in the first place, without any real

understanding
of what I was doing, however...

What next?
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

What happens if you select the following material and drag it into the
position immediately before the ¶?

To get the table where you want it, you may then have to place the

selection
inside the table and hover the mouse over the table until the square box
with the direction arrows appears at the top left of the table then left
click and drag on that box to move the table where you want it.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Doug, I must not have made my meaning clear. I don't need to make it
invisible, I want to get rid of it. The material coming after it

should be
part of the same paragraph. But when I put the cursor on it and press
Delete,
nothing happens!
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Click on the Show/Hide ¶ button to hide the ¶.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an inch

and
a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow

laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It

looked
great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I find

that
one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might be

wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have the

same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table?

Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing to

sit
beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have
something
to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd







  #7  
Old December 28th, 2005, 01:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

Thanks, guys, it's working now. And yes, Suzanne: it turns out that, although
the old pilcrow can be deleted and restored at will, there's another one
which refuses to delete. Thanks for explaining why.
--
Peyton Todd


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you've dragged the table by its handle, it's wrapped and requires a text
paragraph to be anchored to. If it's at the end of a document, it must be
followed by a paragraph mark even if inline.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Well, your guess was on the right track - when I select the material just
after the pilcrow, but not including the table, then the table is
highlighted, too. No doubt it's attached to the pilcrow somehow, and the
reason Word won't delete the pilcrow (carriage return) is that it's trying

to
protect me from deleting the table inadvertently?

On the other hand, I can drag the table further down the page, and then

THAT
pilcrow - at least I thinks it was the same one since it was in the same
place - does delete okay. But then another pilcrow some distance above the
table refuses to delete.

I know about the little square box with arrows at the upper left of the
table - as I begin to recall, that's how I got the table into what was

(for a
time) the correct position in the first place, without any real

understanding
of what I was doing, however...

What next?
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

What happens if you select the following material and drag it into the
position immediately before the ¶?

To get the table where you want it, you may then have to place the

selection
inside the table and hover the mouse over the table until the square box
with the direction arrows appears at the top left of the table then left
click and drag on that box to move the table where you want it.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Doug, I must not have made my meaning clear. I don't need to make it
invisible, I want to get rid of it. The material coming after it

should be
part of the same paragraph. But when I put the cursor on it and press
Delete,
nothing happens!
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Click on the Show/Hide ¶ button to hide the ¶.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an inch

and
a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow

laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It

looked
great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I find

that
one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might be

wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have the

same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table?

Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing to

sit
beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have
something
to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd








  #8  
Old December 28th, 2005, 02:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
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Default Pilcrow (carriage return) won't go away

If you've got a paragraph mark that can't be deleted and is causing
pagination problems, you can format it as 1 pt or Hidden. For more, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/BlankPage.htm

Also, if you don't need the table to be wrapped, go to the Table tab of
Table Properties and choose None for the "Text wrapping."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Thanks, guys, it's working now. And yes, Suzanne: it turns out that,

although
the old pilcrow can be deleted and restored at will, there's another one
which refuses to delete. Thanks for explaining why.
--
Peyton Todd


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you've dragged the table by its handle, it's wrapped and requires a

text
paragraph to be anchored to. If it's at the end of a document, it must

be
followed by a paragraph mark even if inline.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Well, your guess was on the right track - when I select the material

just
after the pilcrow, but not including the table, then the table is
highlighted, too. No doubt it's attached to the pilcrow somehow, and

the
reason Word won't delete the pilcrow (carriage return) is that it's

trying
to
protect me from deleting the table inadvertently?

On the other hand, I can drag the table further down the page, and

then
THAT
pilcrow - at least I thinks it was the same one since it was in the

same
place - does delete okay. But then another pilcrow some distance above

the
table refuses to delete.

I know about the little square box with arrows at the upper left of

the
table - as I begin to recall, that's how I got the table into what was

(for a
time) the correct position in the first place, without any real

understanding
of what I was doing, however...

What next?
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

What happens if you select the following material and drag it into

the
position immediately before the ¶?

To get the table where you want it, you may then have to place the

selection
inside the table and hover the mouse over the table until the square

box
with the direction arrows appears at the top left of the table then

left
click and drag on that box to move the table where you want it.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of

my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in

message
...
Doug, I must not have made my meaning clear. I don't need to make

it
invisible, I want to get rid of it. The material coming after it

should be
part of the same paragraph. But when I put the cursor on it and

press
Delete,
nothing happens!
--
Peyton Todd


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Click on the Show/Hide ¶ button to hide the ¶.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself

of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peyton Todd" wrote in

message
...
Hello. I have a Word table (quite tiny - just one row about an

inch
and
a
half wide, justified rightward on the page), that I somehow

laboriously
managed to get the text to wrap around (don't ask me how). It

looked
great
till I re-worded some of the lines just above it, and now I

find
that
one
ends in a carriage return which refuses to delete. What might

be
wrong?

Also, assuming I manage to delete it, is it likely I will have

the
same
trouble I had before getting the text to wrap around the table?

Usually
that's no problem for me, but this time the text kept refusing

to
sit
beside
the table, and I fear the inadvertent carriage return may have
something
to
do with how I somehow got it to work.

Thanks in advance,
--
Peyton Todd









 




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