How do I verify licenses and match the license to the proper CD?

if you are an employee of BeLarc, then
your concerns are substantiated.

If not..... then I owe you nothing.

Your always welcome to disagree,
but the method you use appears to
be hostile and demeaning....

Some of you guys just don't get it.
"I" (me), am not hear to debate or
dance or play games with you guys.

Instead I am focused on helping the o.p.
by providing information that i believe
is helpful and based on my experience.
Others are welcomed to do the same.

If I say that I beleive there is an issue with
a software, then so what. If you disagree,
then tell it to the o.p. and provide your reasons.
Simply discrediting someone's suggestion
is not really evidence that you have a better
suggestion for the o.p. In fact it only shows
how little one really knows...

Unfortunately, I think out of all the responses
to this thread, there were only 2 directed
to help the o.p.

What would have been helpful from one of
you guys would have been to let the o.p. know
that belarc is for personal use only. And installing
it on a network or company pc requires permission
and purchase from BeLarc. Hopefully no one
here violated their agreement.

I don't beleive I have an ego. I just want
to be helpful in between my free time....

"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
Yes, the problem may be your ego and arrogance.

One who makes a public announcement of issues, and refuses to back it up
publicly, has a credibility problem.

credibility - the quality of being believable or trustworthy.

If you refuse to back up your claims with the facts when asked, how can
you
be believed, or have your comment considered trustworth?


"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
| creditability...?
|
| i like the concept, but unfortunately my status
| is to provide helpful suggestions and nothing else
| to prove nor do i take the position to disprove or
| discredit anyone else.
|
| there is a problem here, but i don't think it is
| a matter of crediability but rather the problem
| may be ego and arrogance...
|
| As for lack of knowledge or ignorance, i don't
| think it can be used as an excuse because the world of
| information is at your finger tips and keyboard...
|
| i'm sure we can be professional and objective at the
| same time....
|
|
| "Tom Willett" wrote in message
| ...
| You made your pronouncements in a public Microsoft newsgroup.
|
| If you can't back them up publicly, you have no credibility.
|
| Tom
| "DatabaseBen" wrote in message
| ...
| | i'll make a deal with your guys but it will cost you.
| |
| | i'll will be happy to provide you with the facts to satisfy
| | the arrogance and ignorance. But i will also provide them
| | to the person(s) who monitor the conduct and professionalism
| | over this newsgroup.
| |
| | provide me with an email address for a cc of my
| | findings and proof...
| |
| |
| | "Tom Willett" wrote in message
| | ...
| | So, in other words, you can't back up your claims.
| | It's all BS, anyway.
| |
| |
| | "DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
| | ...
| | | actually, i made my discovery know on a previous posting.
| | | and publishing them embedded inside a thread is not
| | | benefitial to anyone.
| | |
| | | I appreciate your suggestion. However, i will
| | | continue providing my experience/discovery/opinion/suggestion
| | | whenever i feel they would be helpful and or needed....
| | |
| | | appreciatively,....
| | |
| | |
| | | "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"
|
| | wrote
| | | in message ...
| | | Would you like to publish your facts here?
| | |
| | | --
| | | Mike Hall
| | | MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "DatabaseBen" wrote in
| message
| | | ...
| | | unfortunately for you
| | | i speak from experience with it and
| | | the facts i obtained as a result. So stand
| | | behind what i say....
| | |
| | | you nonsensical opinions are baseless....
| | |
| | | "Gary Smith" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | That's utter nonsense. Belarc Advisor is in no sense
spyware.
| Just
| | | because something is free doesn't mean that it has some
| nefarious
| | | purpose.
| | | Commercial software, on the other hand, often has
spyware-like
| | | functions.
| | | Some Microsoft products and most Adobe products would be
| examples
| of
| | | this.
| | |
| | |
| | | DatabaseBen wrote:
| | | by far i would recommend
| | | the belarc freeware because
| | | it will list all the keys installed.
| | |
| | | however, because it is free
| | | i beleive it is spyware as well.
| | |
| | | i suppose for doing a thorough
| | | job of revealing the keys, there
| | | is some useful informatin that
| | | somehow pays back belarc.
| | |
| | | but it may not be of no great consequence
| | | since it only appears to be product keys.
| | |
| | | so i would use it once, print out
| | | a hard copy of the report, then unistall
| | | it.
| | |
| | | try it out on one pc and see if this
| | | appears to do the job....
| | |
| | |
| | | "Mobile Medical International" Mobile Medical
| | | wrote in message
| | | news | | | I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25 users
in
| my
| | | office. I
| | | need to take the box of CD's and match them to the proper
PC.
| How
| | do
| | | I
| | | verify
| | | that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD goes
wit
| | which
| | | PC?
| | | Thanks,
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Gary L. Smith
| | | Columbus, Ohio
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:08:42 -0500, "DatabaseBen"
wrote:

creditability...?

i like the concept, but unfortunately my status
is to provide helpful suggestions and nothing else
to prove nor do i take the position to disprove or
discredit anyone else.

there is a problem here, but i don't think it is
a matter of crediability but rather the problem
may be ego and arrogance...

As for lack of knowledge or ignorance, i don't
think it can be used as an excuse because the world of
information is at your finger tips and keyboard...

i'm sure we can be professional and objective at the
same time....

Clearly, you cannot!




"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
You made your pronouncements in a public Microsoft newsgroup.

If you can't back them up publicly, you have no credibility.

Tom
"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
| i'll make a deal with your guys but it will cost you.
|
| i'll will be happy to provide you with the facts to satisfy
| the arrogance and ignorance. But i will also provide them
| to the person(s) who monitor the conduct and professionalism
| over this newsgroup.
|
| provide me with an email address for a cc of my
| findings and proof...
|
|
| "Tom Willett" wrote in message
| ...
| So, in other words, you can't back up your claims.
| It's all BS, anyway.
|
|
| "DatabaseBen" wrote in message
| ...
| | actually, i made my discovery know on a previous posting.
| | and publishing them embedded inside a thread is not
| | benefitial to anyone.
| |
| | I appreciate your suggestion. However, i will
| | continue providing my experience/discovery/opinion/suggestion
| | whenever i feel they would be helpful and or needed....
| |
| | appreciatively,....
| |
| |
| | "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"

| wrote
| | in message ...
| | Would you like to publish your facts here?
| |
| | --
| | Mike Hall
| | MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
| |
| |
| |
| | "DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
| | ...
| | unfortunately for you
| | i speak from experience with it and
| | the facts i obtained as a result. So stand
| | behind what i say....
| |
| | you nonsensical opinions are baseless....
| |
| | "Gary Smith" wrote in message
| | ...
| | That's utter nonsense. Belarc Advisor is in no sense spyware.
Just
| | because something is free doesn't mean that it has some
nefarious
| | purpose.
| | Commercial software, on the other hand, often has spyware-like
| | functions.
| | Some Microsoft products and most Adobe products would be
examples
of
| | this.
| |
| |
| | DatabaseBen wrote:
| | by far i would recommend
| | the belarc freeware because
| | it will list all the keys installed.
| |
| | however, because it is free
| | i beleive it is spyware as well.
| |
| | i suppose for doing a thorough
| | job of revealing the keys, there
| | is some useful informatin that
| | somehow pays back belarc.
| |
| | but it may not be of no great consequence
| | since it only appears to be product keys.
| |
| | so i would use it once, print out
| | a hard copy of the report, then unistall
| | it.
| |
| | try it out on one pc and see if this
| | appears to do the job....
| |
| |
| | "Mobile Medical International" Mobile Medical
| | wrote in message
| | news | | I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25 users in
my
| | office. I
| | need to take the box of CD's and match them to the proper PC.
How
| do
| | I
| | verify
| | that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD goes wit
| which
| | PC?
| | Thanks,
| |
| |
| |
| | --
| | Gary L. Smith
| | Columbus, Ohio
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Spreading paranoia about Belarc is helping nobody.. until you can fully
substantiate claims like this, do not make them..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
if you are an employee of BeLarc, then
your concerns are substantiated.

If not..... then I owe you nothing.

Your always welcome to disagree,
but the method you use appears to
be hostile and demeaning....

Some of you guys just don't get it.
"I" (me), am not hear to debate or
dance or play games with you guys.

Instead I am focused on helping the o.p.
by providing information that i believe
is helpful and based on my experience.
Others are welcomed to do the same.

If I say that I beleive there is an issue with
a software, then so what. If you disagree,
then tell it to the o.p. and provide your reasons.
Simply discrediting someone's suggestion
is not really evidence that you have a better
suggestion for the o.p. In fact it only shows
how little one really knows...

Unfortunately, I think out of all the responses
to this thread, there were only 2 directed
to help the o.p.

What would have been helpful from one of
you guys would have been to let the o.p. know
that belarc is for personal use only. And installing
it on a network or company pc requires permission
and purchase from BeLarc. Hopefully no one
here violated their agreement.

I don't beleive I have an ego. I just want
to be helpful in between my free time....

"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
Yes, the problem may be your ego and arrogance.

One who makes a public announcement of issues, and refuses to back it up
publicly, has a credibility problem.

credibility - the quality of being believable or trustworthy.

If you refuse to back up your claims with the facts when asked, how can
you
be believed, or have your comment considered trustworth?


"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
| creditability...?
|
| i like the concept, but unfortunately my status
| is to provide helpful suggestions and nothing else
| to prove nor do i take the position to disprove or
| discredit anyone else.
|
| there is a problem here, but i don't think it is
| a matter of crediability but rather the problem
| may be ego and arrogance...
|
| As for lack of knowledge or ignorance, i don't
| think it can be used as an excuse because the world of
| information is at your finger tips and keyboard...
|
| i'm sure we can be professional and objective at the
| same time....
|
|
| "Tom Willett" wrote in message
| ...
| You made your pronouncements in a public Microsoft newsgroup.
|
| If you can't back them up publicly, you have no credibility.
|
| Tom
| "DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
| ...
| | i'll make a deal with your guys but it will cost you.
| |
| | i'll will be happy to provide you with the facts to satisfy
| | the arrogance and ignorance. But i will also provide them
| | to the person(s) who monitor the conduct and professionalism
| | over this newsgroup.
| |
| | provide me with an email address for a cc of my
| | findings and proof...
| |
| |
| | "Tom Willett" wrote in message
| | ...
| | So, in other words, you can't back up your claims.
| | It's all BS, anyway.
| |
| |
| | "DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
| | ...
| | | actually, i made my discovery know on a previous posting.
| | | and publishing them embedded inside a thread is not
| | | benefitial to anyone.
| | |
| | | I appreciate your suggestion. However, i will
| | | continue providing my experience/discovery/opinion/suggestion
| | | whenever i feel they would be helpful and or needed....
| | |
| | | appreciatively,....
| | |
| | |
| | | "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"
|
| | wrote
| | | in message ...
| | | Would you like to publish your facts here?
| | |
| | | --
| | | Mike Hall
| | | MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "DatabaseBen" wrote
in
| message
| | | ...
| | | unfortunately for you
| | | i speak from experience with it and
| | | the facts i obtained as a result. So stand
| | | behind what i say....
| | |
| | | you nonsensical opinions are baseless....
| | |
| | | "Gary Smith" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | That's utter nonsense. Belarc Advisor is in no sense
spyware.
| Just
| | | because something is free doesn't mean that it has some
| nefarious
| | | purpose.
| | | Commercial software, on the other hand, often has
spyware-like
| | | functions.
| | | Some Microsoft products and most Adobe products would be
| examples
| of
| | | this.
| | |
| | |
| | | DatabaseBen wrote:
| | | by far i would recommend
| | | the belarc freeware because
| | | it will list all the keys installed.
| | |
| | | however, because it is free
| | | i beleive it is spyware as well.
| | |
| | | i suppose for doing a thorough
| | | job of revealing the keys, there
| | | is some useful informatin that
| | | somehow pays back belarc.
| | |
| | | but it may not be of no great consequence
| | | since it only appears to be product keys.
| | |
| | | so i would use it once, print out
| | | a hard copy of the report, then unistall
| | | it.
| | |
| | | try it out on one pc and see if this
| | | appears to do the job....
| | |
| | |
| | | "Mobile Medical International" Mobile Medical
| | | wrote in message
| | | news | | | I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25
users
in
| my
| | | office. I
| | | need to take the box of CD's and match them to the
proper
PC.
| How
| | do
| | | I
| | | verify
| | | that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD
goes
wit
| | which
| | | PC?
| | | Thanks,
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Gary L. Smith
| | | Columbus, Ohio
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Ben,

Here is how I see the story: Belarc is a widely used and reputable
product. If indeed it is spyware, then users should know about it.
However, the person who makes the claim needs to back the claim up with
proof. I don't care whether you are the one making the claim, or whether
Mike Hall or Tom Willett do so. In any case, I am simply not going to
believe the person until I see some proof, e.g. a network log detailing
what was sent to whom. It doesn't matter whether the claim is made here,
on a blog, on Slashdot, in the news or wherever either. If you have
proof that it is spyware, then show it.
As to me doing research and figuring this out for myself. This is not
that easy. It is not a simple equation of time invested resulting in
proof found. It could be that this is linked to your particular setup,
making it impossible for me to reproduce. It could be that it is an
event that is controlled by a randomized timer, etc. With security
issues, investigating alone won't lead to the answer.
Accusing people here that are asking for you to backup your claim of
arrogance or whatnot is not going to do you any good. If you want us to
strengthen your ego and be respected, then post your proof and everyone
here will gladly give you the credit for discovering the issue.
Otherwise and with your current attacking and arrogant behavior, you are
just making yourself to the laughingstock of this newsgroup where
everyone is going to double-check every single post of yours for wrong
answers and unsubstantiated claims.
You can be assured by the way that someone from Microsoft is reading
these posts. They won't though delete any post or take any other action.
The only job of theirs is monitoring whether the MVPs here behave
professionally. If any unprofessional behavior on our part is discovered
by them, they take up the issue privately with us. For obvious reasons,
we can't share the email addresses of those people with non-MVPs.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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***
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"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
:

no, patrick...

the terms of the deal involved a bit more.

but at least you went back and did some
research....

unfortunately, i was not the issue that
required to be researched..




"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Funny how DatabaseBen wants to make a deal for something that can be found
with Google Groups in 20 seconds:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6b5de36?lnk=st

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote in
message :

Adios

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
sorry, if there is nothing to trade
then there is no deal.

however, i am somewhat perplexed because
if i was able to discover the information, why
can't an MVP not be able to conduct their own
research.......

it is my hope you have the tenacity to
figure out your question as i had done
to figure this question that i once had....

as far as i am concerned, i provided a
response to the o.p. and i am satisfied
that i can unflag this thread on my pc....

i would wish you luck but i have a strong feeling
you wont need any


"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"
wrote in message ...
My e-mail ID is there for all to see.. I await with interest..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
i'll make a deal with your guys but it will cost you.

i'll will be happy to provide you with the facts to satisfy
the arrogance and ignorance. But i will also provide them
to the person(s) who monitor the conduct and professionalism
over this newsgroup.

provide me with an email address for a cc of my
findings and proof...


"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
So, in other words, you can't back up your claims.
It's all BS, anyway.


"DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
...
| actually, i made my discovery know on a previous posting.
| and publishing them embedded inside a thread is not
| benefitial to anyone.
|
| I appreciate your suggestion. However, i will
| continue providing my experience/discovery/opinion/suggestion
| whenever i feel they would be helpful and or needed....
|
| appreciatively,....
|
|
| "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"

wrote
| in message ...
| Would you like to publish your facts here?
|
| --
| Mike Hall
| MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
|
|
|
| "DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
| ...
| unfortunately for you
| i speak from experience with it and
| the facts i obtained as a result. So stand
| behind what i say....
|
| you nonsensical opinions are baseless....
|
| "Gary Smith" wrote in message
| ...
| That's utter nonsense. Belarc Advisor is in no sense spyware.
Just
| because something is free doesn't mean that it has some
nefarious
| purpose.
| Commercial software, on the other hand, often has spyware-like
| functions.
| Some Microsoft products and most Adobe products would be
examples
of
| this.
|
|
| DatabaseBen wrote:
| by far i would recommend
| the belarc freeware because
| it will list all the keys installed.
|
| however, because it is free
| i beleive it is spyware as well.
|
| i suppose for doing a thorough
| job of revealing the keys, there
| is some useful informatin that
| somehow pays back belarc.
|
| but it may not be of no great consequence
| since it only appears to be product keys.
|
| so i would use it once, print out
| a hard copy of the report, then unistall
| it.
|
| try it out on one pc and see if this
| appears to do the job....
|
|
| "Mobile Medical International" Mobile Medical
| wrote in message
| news | I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25 users
in
my
| office. I
| need to take the box of CD's and match them to the proper
PC.
How
do
| I
| verify
| that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD goes
wit
which
| PC?
| Thanks,
|
|
|
| --
| Gary L. Smith
| Columbus, Ohio
|
|
|
|
|
|

no, i have nothing to prove to you
and unless you can successfully dispute
my opinions about what i experienced and
what i beleive, then you don't have anything
to say about this subject. Basically your
opinions about me and mine mean nothing
to no one else except you and yours.

crediability and reputation is your concern
as far as i am concern, you are unable
to disprove my opinions. And that is
unfortunate for you - but it is not for
me.


it is hoped that while you were ungoing
an egomaniac episode, you abided by
the terms of the software your were testing
on your machines. It would not be a crediable
act to install a "for use on a personal pc" on
networked systems without paying for it....

In the future, if you want to attack
me then maybe it will help to keep
your opinions in your back pocket
and your scruples between your legs......

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Ben,

Here is how I see the story: Belarc is a widely used and reputable
product. If indeed it is spyware, then users should know about it.
However, the person who makes the claim needs to back the claim up with
proof. I don't care whether you are the one making the claim, or whether
Mike Hall or Tom Willett do so. In any case, I am simply not going to
believe the person until I see some proof, e.g. a network log detailing
what was sent to whom. It doesn't matter whether the claim is made here,
on a blog, on Slashdot, in the news or wherever either. If you have proof
that it is spyware, then show it.
As to me doing research and figuring this out for myself. This is not that
easy. It is not a simple equation of time invested resulting in proof
found. It could be that this is linked to your particular setup, making it
impossible for me to reproduce. It could be that it is an event that is
controlled by a randomized timer, etc. With security issues, investigating
alone won't lead to the answer.
Accusing people here that are asking for you to backup your claim of
arrogance or whatnot is not going to do you any good. If you want us to
strengthen your ego and be respected, then post your proof and everyone
here will gladly give you the credit for discovering the issue. Otherwise
and with your current attacking and arrogant behavior, you are just making
yourself to the laughingstock of this newsgroup where everyone is going to
double-check every single post of yours for wrong answers and
unsubstantiated claims.
You can be assured by the way that someone from Microsoft is reading these
posts. They won't though delete any post or take any other action. The
only job of theirs is monitoring whether the MVPs here behave
professionally. If any unprofessional behavior on our part is discovered
by them, they take up the issue privately with us. For obvious reasons, we
can't share the email addresses of those people with non-MVPs.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
:

no, patrick...

the terms of the deal involved a bit more.

but at least you went back and did some
research....

unfortunately, i was not the issue that
required to be researched..




"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Funny how DatabaseBen wants to make a deal for something that can be
found
with Google Groups in 20 seconds:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6b5de36?lnk=st

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
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"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote in
message :

Adios

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
sorry, if there is nothing to trade
then there is no deal.

however, i am somewhat perplexed because
if i was able to discover the information, why
can't an MVP not be able to conduct their own
research.......

it is my hope you have the tenacity to
figure out your question as i had done
to figure this question that i once had....

as far as i am concerned, i provided a
response to the o.p. and i am satisfied
that i can unflag this thread on my pc....

i would wish you luck but i have a strong feeling
you wont need any


"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"

wrote in message ...
My e-mail ID is there for all to see.. I await with interest..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
...
i'll make a deal with your guys but it will cost you.

i'll will be happy to provide you with the facts to satisfy
the arrogance and ignorance. But i will also provide them
to the person(s) who monitor the conduct and professionalism
over this newsgroup.

provide me with an email address for a cc of my
findings and proof...


"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
So, in other words, you can't back up your claims.
It's all BS, anyway.


"DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
...
| actually, i made my discovery know on a previous posting.
| and publishing them embedded inside a thread is not
| benefitial to anyone.
|
| I appreciate your suggestion. However, i will
| continue providing my experience/discovery/opinion/suggestion
| whenever i feel they would be helpful and or needed....
|
| appreciatively,....
|
|
| "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"

wrote
| in message ...
| Would you like to publish your facts here?
|
| --
| Mike Hall
| MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
|
|
|
| "DatabaseBen" wrote
in
message
| ...
| unfortunately for you
| i speak from experience with it and
| the facts i obtained as a result. So stand
| behind what i say....
|
| you nonsensical opinions are baseless....
|
| "Gary Smith" wrote in message
| ...
| That's utter nonsense. Belarc Advisor is in no sense
spyware.
Just
| because something is free doesn't mean that it has some
nefarious
| purpose.
| Commercial software, on the other hand, often has
spyware-like
| functions.
| Some Microsoft products and most Adobe products would be
examples
of
| this.
|
|
| DatabaseBen wrote:
| by far i would recommend
| the belarc freeware because
| it will list all the keys installed.
|
| however, because it is free
| i beleive it is spyware as well.
|
| i suppose for doing a thorough
| job of revealing the keys, there
| is some useful informatin that
| somehow pays back belarc.
|
| but it may not be of no great consequence
| since it only appears to be product keys.
|
| so i would use it once, print out
| a hard copy of the report, then unistall
| it.
|
| try it out on one pc and see if this
| appears to do the job....
|
|
| "Mobile Medical International" Mobile Medical
| wrote in message
| news | I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25
users
in
my
| office. I
| need to take the box of CD's and match them to the
proper
PC.
How
do
| I
| verify
| that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD
goes
wit
which
| PC?
| Thanks,
|
|
|
| --
| Gary L. Smith
| Columbus, Ohio
|
|
|
|
|
|

i can make whatever claim that i beleive
and "i have seen no paranoia or people
running to the hills".

however, i have seen egomania...

in the future, until you can successfully
dispute any of my claims, then don't
make unrational statements about
paranoia. The mental afflication
you are describing seems to be
within a close nit group
of egomaniacs "that we all
have seen in action herein"...


"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote in message
...
Spreading paranoia about Belarc is helping nobody.. until you can fully
substantiate claims like this, do not make them..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
if you are an employee of BeLarc, then
your concerns are substantiated.

If not..... then I owe you nothing.

Your always welcome to disagree,
but the method you use appears to
be hostile and demeaning....

Some of you guys just don't get it.
"I" (me), am not hear to debate or
dance or play games with you guys.

Instead I am focused on helping the o.p.
by providing information that i believe
is helpful and based on my experience.
Others are welcomed to do the same.

If I say that I beleive there is an issue with
a software, then so what. If you disagree,
then tell it to the o.p. and provide your reasons.
Simply discrediting someone's suggestion
is not really evidence that you have a better
suggestion for the o.p. In fact it only shows
how little one really knows...

Unfortunately, I think out of all the responses
to this thread, there were only 2 directed
to help the o.p.

What would have been helpful from one of
you guys would have been to let the o.p. know
that belarc is for personal use only. And installing
it on a network or company pc requires permission
and purchase from BeLarc. Hopefully no one
here violated their agreement.

I don't beleive I have an ego. I just want
to be helpful in between my free time....

"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
Yes, the problem may be your ego and arrogance.

One who makes a public announcement of issues, and refuses to back it up
publicly, has a credibility problem.

credibility - the quality of being believable or trustworthy.

If you refuse to back up your claims with the facts when asked, how can
you
be believed, or have your comment considered trustworth?


"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
| creditability...?
|
| i like the concept, but unfortunately my status
| is to provide helpful suggestions and nothing else
| to prove nor do i take the position to disprove or
| discredit anyone else.
|
| there is a problem here, but i don't think it is
| a matter of crediability but rather the problem
| may be ego and arrogance...
|
| As for lack of knowledge or ignorance, i don't
| think it can be used as an excuse because the world of
| information is at your finger tips and keyboard...
|
| i'm sure we can be professional and objective at the
| same time....
|
|
| "Tom Willett" wrote in message
| ...
| You made your pronouncements in a public Microsoft newsgroup.
|
| If you can't back them up publicly, you have no credibility.
|
| Tom
| "DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
| ...
| | i'll make a deal with your guys but it will cost you.
| |
| | i'll will be happy to provide you with the facts to satisfy
| | the arrogance and ignorance. But i will also provide them
| | to the person(s) who monitor the conduct and professionalism
| | over this newsgroup.
| |
| | provide me with an email address for a cc of my
| | findings and proof...
| |
| |
| | "Tom Willett" wrote in message
| | ...
| | So, in other words, you can't back up your claims.
| | It's all BS, anyway.
| |
| |
| | "DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
| | ...
| | | actually, i made my discovery know on a previous posting.
| | | and publishing them embedded inside a thread is not
| | | benefitial to anyone.
| | |
| | | I appreciate your suggestion. However, i will
| | | continue providing my experience/discovery/opinion/suggestion
| | | whenever i feel they would be helpful and or needed....
| | |
| | | appreciatively,....
| | |
| | |
| | | "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"
|
| | wrote
| | | in message ...
| | | Would you like to publish your facts here?
| | |
| | | --
| | | Mike Hall
| | | MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "DatabaseBen" wrote
in
| message
| | | ...
| | | unfortunately for you
| | | i speak from experience with it and
| | | the facts i obtained as a result. So stand
| | | behind what i say....
| | |
| | | you nonsensical opinions are baseless....
| | |
| | | "Gary Smith" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | That's utter nonsense. Belarc Advisor is in no sense
spyware.
| Just
| | | because something is free doesn't mean that it has some
| nefarious
| | | purpose.
| | | Commercial software, on the other hand, often has
spyware-like
| | | functions.
| | | Some Microsoft products and most Adobe products would be
| examples
| of
| | | this.
| | |
| | |
| | | DatabaseBen wrote:
| | | by far i would recommend
| | | the belarc freeware because
| | | it will list all the keys installed.
| | |
| | | however, because it is free
| | | i beleive it is spyware as well.
| | |
| | | i suppose for doing a thorough
| | | job of revealing the keys, there
| | | is some useful informatin that
| | | somehow pays back belarc.
| | |
| | | but it may not be of no great consequence
| | | since it only appears to be product keys.
| | |
| | | so i would use it once, print out
| | | a hard copy of the report, then unistall
| | | it.
| | |
| | | try it out on one pc and see if this
| | | appears to do the job....
| | |
| | |
| | | "Mobile Medical International" Mobile Medical
| | | wrote in message
| | |
news | | | I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25
users
in
| my
| | | office. I
| | | need to take the box of CD's and match them to the
proper
PC.
| How
| | do
| | | I
| | | verify
| | | that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD
goes
wit
| | which
| | | PC?
| | | Thanks,
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Gary L. Smith
| | | Columbus, Ohio
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

btw: I think you did good
to mentioned those unknown variables.

I use rationalities like this before
wasting any or my personal time. Its the
cost to benefit formula that requires
the unknown variables to be calculated in.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Ben,

Here is how I see the story: Belarc is a widely used and reputable
product. If indeed it is spyware, then users should know about it.
However, the person who makes the claim needs to back the claim up with
proof. I don't care whether you are the one making the claim, or whether
Mike Hall or Tom Willett do so. In any case, I am simply not going to
believe the person until I see some proof, e.g. a network log detailing
what was sent to whom. It doesn't matter whether the claim is made here,
on a blog, on Slashdot, in the news or wherever either. If you have proof
that it is spyware, then show it.
As to me doing research and figuring this out for myself. This is not that
easy. It is not a simple equation of time invested resulting in proof
found. It could be that this is linked to your particular setup, making it
impossible for me to reproduce. It could be that it is an event that is
controlled by a randomized timer, etc. With security issues, investigating
alone won't lead to the answer.
Accusing people here that are asking for you to backup your claim of
arrogance or whatnot is not going to do you any good. If you want us to
strengthen your ego and be respected, then post your proof and everyone
here will gladly give you the credit for discovering the issue. Otherwise
and with your current attacking and arrogant behavior, you are just making
yourself to the laughingstock of this newsgroup where everyone is going to
double-check every single post of yours for wrong answers and
unsubstantiated claims.
You can be assured by the way that someone from Microsoft is reading these
posts. They won't though delete any post or take any other action. The
only job of theirs is monitoring whether the MVPs here behave
professionally. If any unprofessional behavior on our part is discovered
by them, they take up the issue privately with us. For obvious reasons, we
can't share the email addresses of those people with non-MVPs.

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"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
:

no, patrick...

the terms of the deal involved a bit more.

but at least you went back and did some
research....

unfortunately, i was not the issue that
required to be researched..




"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Funny how DatabaseBen wants to make a deal for something that can be
found
with Google Groups in 20 seconds:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...6b5de36?lnk=st

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" wrote in
message :

Adios

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in message
...
sorry, if there is nothing to trade
then there is no deal.

however, i am somewhat perplexed because
if i was able to discover the information, why
can't an MVP not be able to conduct their own
research.......

it is my hope you have the tenacity to
figure out your question as i had done
to figure this question that i once had....

as far as i am concerned, i provided a
response to the o.p. and i am satisfied
that i can unflag this thread on my pc....

i would wish you luck but i have a strong feeling
you wont need any


"Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"

wrote in message ...
My e-mail ID is there for all to see.. I await with interest..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
...
i'll make a deal with your guys but it will cost you.

i'll will be happy to provide you with the facts to satisfy
the arrogance and ignorance. But i will also provide them
to the person(s) who monitor the conduct and professionalism
over this newsgroup.

provide me with an email address for a cc of my
findings and proof...


"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
So, in other words, you can't back up your claims.
It's all BS, anyway.


"DatabaseBen" wrote in
message
...
| actually, i made my discovery know on a previous posting.
| and publishing them embedded inside a thread is not
| benefitial to anyone.
|
| I appreciate your suggestion. However, i will
| continue providing my experience/discovery/opinion/suggestion
| whenever i feel they would be helpful and or needed....
|
| appreciatively,....
|
|
| "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User"

wrote
| in message ...
| Would you like to publish your facts here?
|
| --
| Mike Hall
| MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
|
|
|
| "DatabaseBen" wrote
in
message
| ...
| unfortunately for you
| i speak from experience with it and
| the facts i obtained as a result. So stand
| behind what i say....
|
| you nonsensical opinions are baseless....
|
| "Gary Smith" wrote in message
| ...
| That's utter nonsense. Belarc Advisor is in no sense
spyware.
Just
| because something is free doesn't mean that it has some
nefarious
| purpose.
| Commercial software, on the other hand, often has
spyware-like
| functions.
| Some Microsoft products and most Adobe products would be
examples
of
| this.
|
|
| DatabaseBen wrote:
| by far i would recommend
| the belarc freeware because
| it will list all the keys installed.
|
| however, because it is free
| i beleive it is spyware as well.
|
| i suppose for doing a thorough
| job of revealing the keys, there
| is some useful informatin that
| somehow pays back belarc.
|
| but it may not be of no great consequence
| since it only appears to be product keys.
|
| so i would use it once, print out
| a hard copy of the report, then unistall
| it.
|
| try it out on one pc and see if this
| appears to do the job....
|
|
| "Mobile Medical International" Mobile Medical
| wrote in message
| news | I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25
users
in
my
| office. I
| need to take the box of CD's and match them to the
proper
PC.
How
do
| I
| verify
| that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD
goes
wit
which
| PC?
| Thanks,
|
|
|
| --
| Gary L. Smith
| Columbus, Ohio
|
|
|
|
|
|

I would like to take a moment to thank databaseben for the recommendation. I
was unfortunate that out of all of these responses only one recommendation
was made. I always assume that freeware is spyware. It may not be a justified
assumption but one I feel errors in the favor of myself. I did try this
software, it worked great, I uninstalled it afterwards and I've approached
Belarc about volume licensing so I may legally install it on the 25 pc's at
work.
Again thanks for the recommendation and I am sorry about creating a forum
that lead to such demeanor.


"Bob I" wrote:

It would be the license key that you are interested in. Software below
will help.
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

Mobile Medical International wrote:

I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25 users in my office. I
need to take the box of CD's and match them to the proper PC. How do I verify
that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD goes wit which PC?
Thanks,

You're welcome, I must have missed the "furor". Erring on the side of
caution is not a bad thing. :-) There are many pitfalls to be found in
the freebie side of things. I am not aware of any issues with
magicjellybean though, so if that one is what you wish to try, go ahead.

Mobile Medical International wrote:

I would like to take a moment to thank databaseben for the recommendation. I
was unfortunate that out of all of these responses only one recommendation
was made. I always assume that freeware is spyware. It may not be a justified
assumption but one I feel errors in the favor of myself. I did try this
software, it worked great, I uninstalled it afterwards and I've approached
Belarc about volume licensing so I may legally install it on the 25 pc's at
work.
Again thanks for the recommendation and I am sorry about creating a forum
that lead to such demeanor.


"Bob I" wrote:


It would be the license key that you are interested in. Software below
will help.
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

Mobile Medical International wrote:


I've been given the IT responsibilities and have 25 users in my office. I
need to take the box of CD's and match them to the proper PC. How do I verify
that I am untilizing all of my licenses and which CD goes wit which PC?
Thanks,