English Spell Checker Switched to French!

Further, on another machine I've found with Process Explorer that OE wants
mssp3en.lex and msspell3.dll when spell check is invoked, and those files
are ancient and have not been updated with Office 2007.

So all this adds up to a Registry fix, though I don't know what it is.

Running the Office 2003 install, even if just the Proofing Tools is
selected, is not worth it to me, since a lot more gets installed/touched
than proofing tools (as I saw when testing in a VM).

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
Three: It does work with the new French spell check. Something doesn't add
up here.

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
That's truly and utterly bizarre for a couple reasons: One, they worked
together up through B2TR. Two, there are only about a bazillion OE users,
and OE is MS's own product. They couldn't manage to keep the files
compatible?!

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

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--------------
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just
fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and
indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and
that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE
where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

there is still a problem here. after installing just the proofing portion of
2003 i got an authentication fail on the 2003, 2007 passed but i couldn't
update it because 2003 fialed..............

i uninsalled 2007 and 2003 passes authentication and works perfectly with
the update site, but after installing 2007 again with the proofing portions
of 2003, again it failed authentication and the 'customer support' at
Microsoft has been less then helpful and practically useless with getting it
resolved.

the only fix i have that works is to go all the way back to Office 2000
premium and install the proofing portions of it then all checks out fine.
without a doubt nobody who paid the price we did for 2007 should have to fall
back on a 7 yrs old version of the software for a basic feature that SHOULD
be included with the newest version. a bit ridiculous if i do say so myself.

good day
kc


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

What do you mean with an authentication failure? When do you get the
message and what exactly does it say?

the only fix i have that works is to go all the way back to Office 2000
premium and install the proofing portions of it then all checks out fine.
without a doubt nobody who paid the price we did for 2007 should have to fall
back on a 7 yrs old version of the software for a basic feature that SHOULD
be included with the newest version. a bit ridiculous if i do say so myself.
I posted more info about this on http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
From the
* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are
a number of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing
this problem is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English
Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never
shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by
Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers, and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to
install all of Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools
can be found in the Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

when trying to install the add-on to 'save as pdf' i had to 'authenticate'
before i was allowed to download the add-on. when i hit authenticate it said
that my 2007 passed authentication, but 2003 failed, i don't recall the exact
message but it basically said 'you pirated the software key' which it is not.


everything works fine now with the 2000 version proofing installed but
again, i shouldn't have to fall back to an older version for it to work. if
I'd not owned previous versions the spell checking portion of OE wouldn't
work unless i wanted to use French, which unfortunately i do not.

kc


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

What do you mean with an authentication failure? When do you get the
message and what exactly does it say?

the only fix i have that works is to go all the way back to Office 2000
premium and install the proofing portions of it then all checks out fine.
without a doubt nobody who paid the price we did for 2007 should have to fall
back on a 7 yrs old version of the software for a basic feature that SHOULD
be included with the newest version. a bit ridiculous if i do say so myself.
I posted more info about this on http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
From the
* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are
a number of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing
this problem is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English
Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never
shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by
Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers, and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to
install all of Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools
can be found in the Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

just to clarify, the 2003 passes authentication perfectly, it only fails
after 2007 is installed and i reinstall the proofing portion.

kc

"KC" wrote:

when trying to install the add-on to 'save as pdf' i had to 'authenticate'
before i was allowed to download the add-on. when i hit authenticate it said
that my 2007 passed authentication, but 2003 failed, i don't recall the exact
message but it basically said 'you pirated the software key' which it is not.


everything works fine now with the 2000 version proofing installed but
again, i shouldn't have to fall back to an older version for it to work. if
I'd not owned previous versions the spell checking portion of OE wouldn't
work unless i wanted to use French, which unfortunately i do not.

kc


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

What do you mean with an authentication failure? When do you get the
message and what exactly does it say?

the only fix i have that works is to go all the way back to Office 2000
premium and install the proofing portions of it then all checks out fine.
without a doubt nobody who paid the price we did for 2007 should have to fall
back on a 7 yrs old version of the software for a basic feature that SHOULD
be included with the newest version. a bit ridiculous if i do say so myself.
I posted more info about this on http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
From the
* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are
a number of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing
this problem is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English
Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never
shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by
Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers, and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to
install all of Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools
can be found in the Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

Now I understand...You are talking about the Office Genuine Advantage
thing...

everything works fine now with the 2000 version proofing installed but
again, i shouldn't have to fall back to an older version for it to work. if
I'd not owned previous versions the spell checking portion of OE wouldn't
work unless i wanted to use French, which unfortunately i do not.
I hear you, but there is nothing I can do about it

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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What do you mean with an authentication failure? When do you get the
message and what exactly does it say?

the only fix i have that works is to go all the way back to Office 2000
premium and install the proofing portions of it then all checks out fine.
without a doubt nobody who paid the price we did for 2007 should have to fall
back on a 7 yrs old version of the software for a basic feature that SHOULD
be included with the newest version. a bit ridiculous if i do say so myself.
I posted more info about this on http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
From the
* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are
a number of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing
this problem is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English
Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never
shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by
Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers, and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to
install all of Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools
can be found in the Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

That's Her, there seams to be a glitch in the system.

also you mentioned (elsewhere i believe it was) you ran a PC with both 2003
and 2007 full versions, i tried that as well and the update site only
recognized the 2003 installation when checking for updates.

the worst part of this whole ordeal was when i tried to uninstall 2007 i got
an error about some file was missing and i didn't have administrator rights
to the registry (which i most certainly do) and it 'rolled back' the
installation but then any time i opened IE7 i got an 'updating' box that
again came up with that same error finding a file and that i didn't have
administrator privileges. i spent the better part of yesterday installing
and uninstalling both versions of office trying to fix this and ended up
formatting the dang harddrive and loading everything all over
again......three times !!! trying to solve this screwed up issue.

the total size of the proofing installation from 2000 is 25 meg, there
should be some simple download fix that doesn't require the installation of
the older version to get an English spell checking option.

kc

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

Now I understand...You are talking about the Office Genuine Advantage
thing...

everything works fine now with the 2000 version proofing installed but
again, i shouldn't have to fall back to an older version for it to work. if
I'd not owned previous versions the spell checking portion of OE wouldn't
work unless i wanted to use French, which unfortunately i do not.
I hear you, but there is nothing I can do about it

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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What do you mean with an authentication failure? When do you get the
message and what exactly does it say?

the only fix i have that works is to go all the way back to Office 2000
premium and install the proofing portions of it then all checks out fine.
without a doubt nobody who paid the price we did for 2007 should have to fall
back on a 7 yrs old version of the software for a basic feature that SHOULD
be included with the newest version. a bit ridiculous if i do say so myself.
I posted more info about this on http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
From the
* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are
a number of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing
this problem is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English
Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never
shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by
Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers, and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to
install all of Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools
can be found in the Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

That's Her, there seams to be a glitch in the system.
Yes, there is. According to that thing I am running a stolen copy of
OneNote 2007 on my tablet. (mine is from MSDN, so 100% legitimate)

also you mentioned (elsewhere i believe it was) you ran a PC with both 2003
and 2007 full versions, i tried that as well and the update site only
recognized the 2003 installation when checking for updates.
Microsoft Update? Office Update? Yes, so far it seems they haven't put
2007 on the update list yet. I expect this will happen in December.

the worst part of this whole ordeal was when i tried to uninstall 2007 i got
an error about some file was missing and i didn't have administrator rights
to the registry (which i most certainly do) and it 'rolled back' the
installation but then any time i opened IE7 i got an 'updating' box that
again came up with that same error finding a file and that i didn't have
administrator privileges. i spent the better part of yesterday installing
and uninstalling both versions of office trying to fix this and ended up
formatting the dang harddrive and loading everything all over
again......three times !!! trying to solve this screwed up issue.
For future reference: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/79
It says Beta, but this should also work with RTM.

the total size of the proofing installation from 2000 is 25 meg, there
should be some simple download fix that doesn't require the installation of
the older version to get an English spell checking option.
I agree. All I can say though is that Microsoft is aware of the problem
and figuring out what to do. At the very least, you can expect a KB
article on this issue in the future.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

Now I understand...You are talking about the Office Genuine Advantage
thing...

everything works fine now with the 2000 version proofing installed but
again, i shouldn't have to fall back to an older version for it to work. if
I'd not owned previous versions the spell checking portion of OE wouldn't
work unless i wanted to use French, which unfortunately i do not.
I hear you, but there is nothing I can do about it

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
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What do you mean with an authentication failure? When do you get the
message and what exactly does it say?

the only fix i have that works is to go all the way back to Office 2000
premium and install the proofing portions of it then all checks out fine.
without a doubt nobody who paid the price we did for 2007 should have to fall
back on a 7 yrs old version of the software for a basic feature that SHOULD
be included with the newest version. a bit ridiculous if i do say so myself.
I posted more info about this on http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
From the
* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are
a number of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing
this problem is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English
Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never
shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by
Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers, and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to
install all of Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools
can be found in the Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

OE cannot use the spell checker from Office 2007.
Office 2007 ships with a new version of the spell checking tools that
Outlook Express doesn't understand. The workaround to fix this is to
install the English dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There
should be no need to install all of Office just the dictionary. The
English Proofing Tools can be found in the Custom Install tree under
'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
:

"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message
...
"Tom Lake" wrote in message
...
I just installed Office 2007 final and now my spell checker
uses a French dictionary rather than English to check my
spelling. Of course, since I type in English, most words are
flagged as wrong. How can I get English back? It's not listed
as a choice in Tools/Options/Spelling.

I'm so glad! I just posted this over in the OE group:

So, I had Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh installed, and all was
well: OE6 (XP SP2) saw Office's U.S. English proofing tools just fine.

I uninstalled the beta and installed Office 2007 final.

Since that time, the only language listed in OE is French, and indeed,
those are the only words it knows now.

I've confirmed that the U.S. English proofing tools are installed and that
(as expected) they're the default in Word, where, BTW, English
spell-checking works fine.

So...is there perhaps a Registry entry I can check that tells OE where to
look for the proofing tools, or perhaps the languages?

Note that OE is not displaying any error when spell-checking, it just
obliviously thinks I'm French now and has that as the only choice of
language in Tools/Options/Spelling.

Oops! I neglected to add that my case is the same as yours.
Office 2007 works fine. It's Outlook Express that's stuck
in French mode.

Tom Lake

Hi K.C.,

Unfortunately, the MS Windows folks, who do the development and updating for Outlook Express, have not, at this point, done any
updating to support using the Office 2007 proofing tools with Outlook Express as they're primarily focused on their new Windows
versions, which has a different mail/news client than Outlook Express.

A custom install of any feature of Office 2003 installs the core files for Office 2003 (so you're likely to also get prompted to
install all of the 2003 Service Packs and updates).

There are 3rd party proofing tools available for Outlook Express.

If you're using Outlook express for email with Office 2007 rather than for newsgroups, you can edit in Word 2007 and proof then copy
and paste , or if you want to send the Word document you can add the 'Send to Email Recipient' command to your Word 2007 Quick
Access Toolbar (QAT) to bring up the 'Addressing Envelope' when you're ready to send out your document. To add it to the QAT:

(Alt, T, O, C, Alt+C, C, Enter, Tab, T, scroll up)

==============
"KC" wrote in message ...
That's Her, there seams to be a glitch in the system.

also you mentioned (elsewhere i believe it was) you ran a PC with both 2003
and 2007 full versions, i tried that as well and the update site only
recognized the 2003 installation when checking for updates.

the worst part of this whole ordeal was when i tried to uninstall 2007 i got
an error about some file was missing and i didn't have administrator rights
to the registry (which i most certainly do) and it 'rolled back' the
installation but then any time i opened IE7 i got an 'updating' box that
again came up with that same error finding a file and that i didn't have
administrator privileges. i spent the better part of yesterday installing
and uninstalling both versions of office trying to fix this and ended up
formatting the dang harddrive and loading everything all over
again......three times !!! trying to solve this screwed up issue.

the total size of the proofing installation from 2000 is 25 meg, there
should be some simple download fix that doesn't require the installation of
the older version to get an English spell checking option.

kc
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

I'd love for someone to dig deep down and tell us the files *which OE
actually uses for spell checking* that Office 2007 has updated. In my
testing, it only uses the two files I've mentioned previously, and they
haven't been updated. Until someone can tell me specifically which files
we're talking about here, I'm considering this a Registry-only issue.

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi K.C.,

Unfortunately, the MS Windows folks, who do the development and updating
for Outlook Express, have not, at this point, done any
updating to support using the Office 2007 proofing tools with Outlook
Express as they're primarily focused on their new Windows
versions, which has a different mail/news client than Outlook Express.

A custom install of any feature of Office 2003 installs the core files for
Office 2003 (so you're likely to also get prompted to
install all of the 2003 Service Packs and updates).

There are 3rd party proofing tools available for Outlook Express.

If you're using Outlook express for email with Office 2007 rather than for
newsgroups, you can edit in Word 2007 and proof then copy
and paste , or if you want to send the Word document you can add the 'Send
to Email Recipient' command to your Word 2007 Quick
Access Toolbar (QAT) to bring up the 'Addressing Envelope' when you're
ready to send out your document. To add it to the QAT:

(Alt, T, O, C, Alt+C, C, Enter, Tab, T, scroll up)

==============
"KC" wrote in message
...
That's Her, there seams to be a glitch in the system.

also you mentioned (elsewhere i believe it was) you ran a PC with both
2003
and 2007 full versions, i tried that as well and the update site only
recognized the 2003 installation when checking for updates.

the worst part of this whole ordeal was when i tried to uninstall 2007 i
got
an error about some file was missing and i didn't have administrator
rights
to the registry (which i most certainly do) and it 'rolled back' the
installation but then any time i opened IE7 i got an 'updating' box that
again came up with that same error finding a file and that i didn't have
administrator privileges. i spent the better part of yesterday installing
and uninstalling both versions of office trying to fix this and ended up
formatting the dang harddrive and loading everything all over
again......three times !!! trying to solve this screwed up issue.

the total size of the proofing installation from 2000 is 25 meg, there
should be some simple download fix that doesn't require the installation
of
the older version to get an English spell checking option.

kc
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*