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No...I really don't care about his rantings. If he has something useful to
add, I'm all ears. I thought b/c he had the MVP next to his name; he might have something useful to add. Anyway, it's good to see he has a fan club. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: Seems you DO care about what Russ has to say or else you would not be replying to a thread many weeks old. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, DWest asked: | Nobody cares about your life lessons. Please don't post if your | intentions are to degrade people instead of trying to help resolve a | problem. | | | "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: | || The point I was making is that it takes a long time for || synchronization software to get updated to the point it is totally || reliable with a new Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own || synchronization software. For that reason, I never attempt to use a || new Outlook version as the database for a synchronization program || until it is at least a year out of release. I also don't use a new || OS or Office version on my production partition until a year more || after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need || won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I || have a lot of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being || an early adopter. || || As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is || that I never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" || utilities to transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that || can transfer Outlook data reliably. || || No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what || isn't. I have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm || sure they are convinced that their products are 100% reliable and || compatible as soon as they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. || I'm only imparting my own personal experience and "street smarts." || || I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest || software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly || together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and || thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are || countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes || are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early || widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches || you lessons when you pay attention. || -- || Russ Valentine || [MVP-Outlook] || "Hoops" wrote in message || news ||| Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook ||| 2003 on XP ||| Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to ||| another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft ||| transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore ||| Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre ||| software utility to my XP Notebook ||| - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as ||| instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That ||| transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have ||| synced using the only software ||| that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. ||| This keeps ||| my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, ||| I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts ||| by clicking on ||| the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then ||| clicking ||| on the recipient’s name and hitting send. ||| ||| All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to ||| do.. ||| ||| So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device ||| Centre is ||| crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I ||| agree with you. ||| ||| What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect ||| with such ||| a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over ||| backwards to fix ||| it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that ||| their products don't work as they sell them to. ||| ||| Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my ||| contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails ||| using my Outlook 2007 ||| & contacts.? ||| ||| John ||| ||| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: ||| |||| More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you |||| copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book |||| are required even to |||| start on this one. |||| -- |||| Russ Valentine |||| [MVP-Outlook] |||| "Richard Sargeant" |||| wrote in message |||| ... ||||| Russ, ||||| ||||| Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using ||||| exactly the ||||| same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've ||||| previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst ||||| files, when I upgraded from ||||| Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened ||||| the old ||||| 2003 ||||| pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I ||||| closed the ||||| old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on ||||| yet, Outlook ||||| loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to ||||| terminate Outlook. ||||| ||||| And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. ||||| But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new ||||| partnership and filling ||||| it ||||| with the contents of my new pst file. ||||| ||||| So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by ||||| importing or synchronising. ||||| ||||| RS |
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DWest wrote:
No...I really don't care about his rantings. He was responding to Bruce and you don't appear to be Bruce so why do you care enough to repsond to a thread you never started? -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] |
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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The point I was making is that it takes a long time for synchronization software to get updated to the point it is totally reliable with a new Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own synchronization software. For that reason, I never attempt to use a new Outlook version as the database for a synchronization program until it is at least a year out of release. I also don't use a new OS or Office version on my production partition until a year more after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I have a lot of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being an early adopter. As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is that I never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" utilities to transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that can transfer Outlook data reliably. No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what isn't. I have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm sure they are convinced that their products are 100% reliable and compatible as soon as they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. I'm only imparting my own personal experience and "street smarts." I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay attention. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Hoops" wrote in message news Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on XP Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP Notebook - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only software that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This keeps my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking on the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then clicking on the recipient’s name and hitting send. All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do.. So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre is crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with you. What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with such a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to fix it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that their products don't work as they sell them to. Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook 2007 & contacts.? John "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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I unfortunately was forced to use Outlook 2007 when I purchased my new HP
dv6200 laptop with Vista and I cannot send email from my office. I have experience a unique situation however, when I use my laptop on the free servers at the local coffee shop Outlook will send my outgoing email and will stop when I get back to my office. Could this have something to do with the outgoing SMTP number 25? I thought that I read something in the past that indicated that some sites block this number for security reasons. If this is the case, why is it only being blocked through Outlook 2007 and not 2003? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The point I was making is that it takes a long time for synchronization software to get updated to the point it is totally reliable with a new Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own synchronization software. For that reason, I never attempt to use a new Outlook version as the database for a synchronization program until it is at least a year out of release. I also don't use a new OS or Office version on my production partition until a year more after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I have a lot of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being an early adopter. As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is that I never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" utilities to transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that can transfer Outlook data reliably. No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what isn't. I have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm sure they are convinced that their products are 100% reliable and compatible as soon as they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. I'm only imparting my own personal experience and "street smarts." I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay attention. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Hoops" wrote in message news Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on XP Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP Notebook - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only software that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This keeps my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking on the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then clicking on the recipient’s name and hitting send. All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do.. So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre is crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with you. What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with such a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to fix it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that their products don't work as they sell them to. Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook 2007 & contacts.? John "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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You will need to post a far more complete and accurate description of your
problem and post it in an appropriate group. This has nothing to do with Outlook Contacts. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "jackle298" wrote in message ... I unfortunately was forced to use Outlook 2007 when I purchased my new HP dv6200 laptop with Vista and I cannot send email from my office. I have experience a unique situation however, when I use my laptop on the free servers at the local coffee shop Outlook will send my outgoing email and will stop when I get back to my office. Could this have something to do with the outgoing SMTP number 25? I thought that I read something in the past that indicated that some sites block this number for security reasons. If this is the case, why is it only being blocked through Outlook 2007 and not 2003? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The point I was making is that it takes a long time for synchronization software to get updated to the point it is totally reliable with a new Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own synchronization software. For that reason, I never attempt to use a new Outlook version as the database for a synchronization program until it is at least a year out of release. I also don't use a new OS or Office version on my production partition until a year more after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I have a lot of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being an early adopter. As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is that I never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" utilities to transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that can transfer Outlook data reliably. No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what isn't. I have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm sure they are convinced that their products are 100% reliable and compatible as soon as they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. I'm only imparting my own personal experience and "street smarts." I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay attention. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Hoops" wrote in message news Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on XP Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP Notebook - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only software that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This keeps my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking on the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then clicking on the recipient's name and hitting send. All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do.. So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre is crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with you. What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with such a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to fix it - but they aren't?? It is as if they simply don't care that their products don't work as they sell them to. Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook 2007 & contacts.? John "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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jackle298 wrote:
I unfortunately was forced to use Outlook 2007 when I purchased my new HP dv6200 laptop with Vista and I cannot send email from my office. I have experience a unique situation however, when I use my laptop on the free servers at the local coffee shop Outlook will send my outgoing email and will stop when I get back to my office. Could this have something to do with the outgoing SMTP number 25? I thought that I read something in the past that indicated that some sites block this number for security reasons. If this is the case, why is it only being blocked through Outlook 2007 and not 2003? It's more likely the case that the firewall between your work's network and the INternet doesn't allow access to external mail servers. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] |
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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay attention. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] I guess we shouldn't trust Microsoft marketing BS one bit. |
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You should never trust anyone's marketing BS. There is a reason it is called marketing and not fact telling.
-- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Sasan asked: | "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: | || || I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest || software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly || together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and || thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are || countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes || are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early || widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches || you lessons when you pay attention. || -- || Russ Valentine || [MVP-Outlook] | | | I guess we shouldn't trust Microsoft marketing BS one bit. |
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Not sure what your point is. The entire world knows that marketing and BS
are synonymous. Microsoft is no different than any other large corporation in that regard, and is a cut above most. Anyone who relies on marketing information instead of doing their own due diligence must live with the consequences of their negligence. Welcome to the real world. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Sasan" wrote in message ... "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay attention. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] I guess we shouldn't trust Microsoft marketing BS one bit. |
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Add me to the list. I have EXACTLY the same setup (Mobile 2003 device, Vista
and outlook 2007) and the same problem. MS needs to post a fix for this loop issue ASAP. This issue is very inconvenient, beside being extremely annoying. -- GT "Richard Sargeant" wrote: Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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